ASUS R9 280X

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ASUS R9 280X

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Hallo zusammen,nach über 5Jahren AMD-Karten,davon die letzten 3J. eine 6950,wollt ich eigentlich mal auf Nvidia umsteigen.
Hab dann aber gelesen das das nicht so einfach geht,nur mit Windows neu aufspielen und so.Wollt ich nicht,hab mir jetzt die ASUS R9 280X gekauft,
sollte eigentlich änliche Leistung wie die GTX770 bringen.OK,Karte kam gestern,nach Einbau ging gar nix mehr,alte Karte wieder rein, -gegoogelt-
abhilfe schafft ein Bios-Update.Sowas hab ich noch nie gemacht,musste mich erst Informieren und nach einigen Zögern hab ichs dann doch gewagt.
Verlief Gott sei Dank ohne Probleme - dann alte Karte wieder raus,neue rein-Treiber drauf,nach einigen Neustarts passte dann endlich alles.
Treiber hab ich mir von der AMD Website den neuesten geholt,da auf der beiliegenden CD mein Betriebssystem nicht vorhanden war (VistaX64) !!
Dann den LS gestartet,ich erwartete mir einen ordentlichen Performance-Schub,die neue Karte sollte ja fast doppelte Leistung als die 6950 bringen :chinese:
Erste Entäuschung im LS.Optionsmenü, wenn ich Grafik auf Auto stelle wird wie bei der Vorgänger Karte Medium eingestellt!
Im Spiel dann auf meiner geliebten Belq.Prof. --kein Frame mehr wie vorher d.h. am Hof mit einigen Fahrzeugen gehts unter 30Fps.
Hab nochmal Neustarts gemacht,Patch2 nochmal runtergeladen und install., half bisher alles nix.
Netzteil passt auch,Anschlüsse 1x6Pol u 1x 6+2Pol stecken drin Lüfter drehen ganz normal ( Enermax Pro82+ 525W)

Da sollte doch viel mehr gehen mit der Karte??
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Das der automatisch auf medium steht liegt einfach daran, dass die Grafikkarte "zu neu" für LS ist. Da brauchst du nur manuell auf very high stellen.
Wie siehts denn mit den Framerates ohne Mods aus?
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Hi, also auf der Hagenstätt und Westbridge hatte ich auch vorher dank des Patch2 meist 60Fps,auch mit Mods.
Aber da werden auch,wenn ich F8 drücke, nur ca 1Mio Polys dargestellt.
Auf detaillierteren Modmaps hab ich festgestellt das mit Fahrzeugen je nach Blickwinkel ( meist am Hof ) schon mal 3-4Mio Polys zusammen kommen.
Da ging auf High der 6950 schnell die Luft aus,sie kam dann auf ca 25 Fps.
Und genau bei solchen Situationen hatte ich mir von der neuen Karte erhofft das sie das wesentlich flüssiger darstellen kann.
Wenn ich F8 drücke die "Triangels" sind doch die dargestellten Polys,oder? Je mehr desto weniger die Frames.
Mods sind sauber,ich hab mir sogar angewöhnt neue Mods zu entpacken,i3d öffnen,wenn zu viele Polys weg damit !
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Dann sind deine verwendeten Mods nicht bezüglich Performance optimiert.
3-4mio ist zwar schon hoch, aber sollte an sich bei der Grafikkarte kein Problem darstellen. Es ist aber nicht nur der Polycount entscheidend, sondern auch die Anzahl zu rendernde Objekte, sowie der VRAM Verbrauch. Ebenso spielen die Anzahl und die Komplexität der verwendeten Scripte eine große Rolle. Wenn du viele und komplexe Scripte hast, dazu dann auch noch viele Objekte dargestellt werden müssen, dann ist schlicht und einfach deine CPU das Problem.
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Hmm,wenn der i5 3570K hier schon am Limit ist weiss ich auch nicht mehr weiter.
Mich wunderts halt das man im Vergleich zur 6950 gar nichts merkt.
Vielleicht kannst du da noch was rauslesen, ist auf High mit der neuen Graka:
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Bei 5600 Objekte? Joa, der ist da schon am Limit. Hab die CPU selbst auch, spreche da also aus Erfahrung.
Stegei hat mal irgendwo geschrieben, dass eine aktuelle CPU nur etwa 2000-3000 Objekte @60fps rendern kann.

Außerdem scheinst du irgendwo ziemlich speicherhungrige Mods drin zu haben, zumindest deuten die jeweils etwa 710MB VRAM und RAM das an. Ich komme auf very high kombiniert vielleicht auf 800-900MB. Genau weiß ich das nicht, ist schon eine Weile her, dass ich das kontrolliert habe.
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Nochmal ein Bild,vom Spiel aufn Desctop,Task Manager sagt ein Kern ziemlich am ackern,die anderen drei...
GPU-Z lief auch mit- maxLoad 90-100 %, Durchschnitt AVG 20-30 %
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Das bestätigt nur meine Vermutung mit den komplexen Scripten. Bei mir ist die CPU nämlich etwas gleichmäßiger ausgelastet. Zwar auch hauptsächlich auf einem Kern, aber die anderen machen mehr als bei dir.
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Zu guter Letzt häng ich unten noch meine Log drann,vielleicht siehst du ja einen nicht empfehlenswerten Mod.
Mit den Mods gehts mir so wie der ein od. anderen Frau vorm Schuhschrank: man verzichtet ungern auf was...
Ich schau das der Modsordner so max. 200mb hat - momentan brauchen meine ganzen Fahrzeuge,also Orginal u. Mods so ca 450mb V-Ram , Plus die jeweilige Map.
Auf der Landwehrkanal,die auf High schon 450mb hat sinds dann schon 900mb V-Ram.
Dachte mir die V-Ram Geschichte war hauptsächlich beim LS11 Thema wegen Bad Allo..
Mods sind überwiegend vom Mod-Hub,FSUK,Vertex. Extra Scripts,die das LS Leben verschönern (Courseplay,Followme) sind auch ein paar drinn.
Von den Verbauten Scripts in Mods hab ich allerdings keine Ahnung.
Auf jeden Fall vielen Dank für deine Hilfe :hi:
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P.S. Hoffentlich kommt bald der "Finale" Patch denn diese -l10 n warnings- sehen einfach nur Sche...e aus!
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Re: ASUS R9 280X

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Courseplay und Followme und einen Spielstand mit sehr vielen Fahrzeugen? Na, da ist die CPU aber wohl gut beschäftigt. CP und FM benutze ich beide nicht, sind aber wohl ziemlich schwere Kost für die CPU.
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