how do prices evolve?

[ouhaha]

Hi all,

I'm trying to maximize income. But I don't get how prices evolve in FS17. Can anybody explain?

In FS15 it was quite easy:
- whatever you sell, at the next hour, the price goes down AND other crops price go up. So sell as much as possible in 1 hour
- store quite some of different crops, then sell one after another, hour after hour. The price you get for the last one is absolute top.

In FS17:
- price go down when you sell. I don't see any impact on other crops.
- there are green/red/white prices, here and there a high demand (not always on the highest bidder).
- when saving/reloading game, prices are not the same as when saving.

Note: apparently price changes only when selling finishes -> for example if you can keep dropping with a conveyor belt (i.e. silage), the price doesn't change until the 'flow' stops.

What can I do to make prices go up?

[RODHA]

Note: apparently price changes only when selling finishes -> for example if you can keep dropping with a conveyor belt (i.e. silage), the price doesn't change until the 'flow' stops.

I think this is the key point as the prices change in minutes.

What can I do to make prices go up?

As far as I know, nothing.

[Guil]

Bear in mind as well that great demand the price doesn't drop.

[ouhaha]

Bear in mind as well that great demand the price doesn't drop.

good to know

[TheGhostGG]

I was informed that it also is influenced by other fields planted by AI or whatever they are.

So if 7 fields of 15 are plenty Soybeans, the price will be low because of the high supply of planted Soybean fields. Hopefully you get what I'm saying!

[ErwinR55]

Great demand doesn't drop the price when unloading, but it can change due to normal price changes. One time I had the demand price being there for a long time, and then it started going up again.

Great demand also doesn't mean you will get a highest price if it has started on a low red price, a normal green price can be higher then the high demand price.


A game session remembers the amount of stuff already sold, and thus prices go down for that stuff. But it resets always after a reload of the savegame.

[Fight-Test]

Demand is based on what's currently growing on fields, not what your selling.

More fields you own, the more you can manipulate market.

[GrimGandalf]

Demand is based on what's currently growing on fields, not what your selling.

More fields you own, the more you can manipulate market.

So does this mean when there's a lot of crop on the fields the price goes down? I've had 170,000 liters of sunflowers for 5 days now. Only 1 price has been above a $1,000 and it was $1150 on normal. The last 2 days only one field was working sunflowers. It's getting maddening cause I need the money

[ouhaha]

I'll take a look into savegame files for information tonight

If I remember correctly, in FS13 or 15, there was a counter for every crop of how much you sold in total.

[ouhaha]

to be taken with a hint of salt.

link: https://www.reddit.com/r/farmingsimulat ... s_planted/

found in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS3roWQUPj0

[ouhaha]

I'll take a look into savegame files for information tonight

If I remember correctly, in FS13 or 15, there was a counter for every crop of how much you sold in total.

It's not obvious what is kept. I see references to "plateau" and "normal".

It makes me feel like it's a 'normal' (= gaussian?) distribution, with extra plateaus ('lower' probably after some is sold?), but I can be completely wrong.

[jaro76]

One more question on the same subject:
Does anyone ever see green prices for wheat or barley on hard mode? I have played 200+ hours on hard (GCV and Lossberg) and did not notice those prices being green ever.
Same for woodchips and silage.
The latter i can understand (i am usually selling a lot of both), but straw harvest is minimal, and i am selling it rarely, so I am wandering if i am not patient enough, or is just not possible to see in hard mode

[Alshain]

Bear in mind as well that great demand the price doesn't drop.

It doesn't drop from delivering goods. It does still fluctuate up and down over time during the GD.

[Alshain]

One more question on the same subject:
Does anyone ever see green prices for wheat or barley on hard mode? I have played 200+ hours on hard (GCV and Lossberg) and did not notice those prices being green ever.
Same for woodchips and silage.
The latter i can understand (i am usually selling a lot of both), but straw harvest is minimal, and i am selling it rarely, so I am wandering if i am not patient enough, or is just not possible to see in hard mode

I never did. I suggest if you are on PC, download the Commodity Prices mod. It will keep records of highs and lows and you can decide what you think is an acceptable price to sell at based on that information.

[jaro76]

I suggest if you are on PC, download the Commodity Prices mod.

PS4, so not an option.

Well, looks like I'll need to manually record, what I have seen so far tops are around 400 for wheat and barley, 200 for woodchips and 350 for silage on hard