Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

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Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by W1der » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:15 am

IMO placeable trees are to expensive in the game.

I am not making any money out of them, I only place them to make the map look different and / or to make it a bit more challenging to drive.
For FS19 I would like to see them drop the price on this and also make an option for MP that only the admin can buy placeable objects!

Any one else have any thoughts on this?
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by Alagos » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:01 pm

Why would you buy trees to cut them down?
I don't think the placeable trees were made to make some money.
Makes a lot more sense if their purpose was decoration.

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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by W1der » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:08 pm

Maybe you should read what I wrote again ... or maybe I was unclear?

I am not cutting them down ... I do not make any money out of them ... this is why I am questioning the price of them (I think they are way over priced).
Hopefully they change this for FS19.
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by Dogface » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:59 pm

On PC I would just add the money back to the savegame. Is there a money cheat on console?

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Post by W1der » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:50 pm

Yes, this is how I go about it (manipulating the xml).
Another workaround is to open the map in the editor and add the trees like that ... but then I cant use it as a MP map unless everyone gets my copy of the map installed.
But if this is the way we go around this issue ... GIANTS might just as well lower the prices for them ... :)

"Money cheats" are available on all platforms ... they are called wind energy convertor / solar collector / beehouse.
Buy one ... speed up time ... until you have the amount of money you need.

A bit more work to it and boring to look at.

It will be interesting to see how GIANTS has gone about this for FS19 ...
Rumors says that we are getting placeable shrubs also ... I wonder what a shrub will cost. :coolnew:
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by Earnest Pea » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:37 pm

In real life, you can buy a full size tree. Transplanting them is quite an operation. I can only assume that buying a full size tree isn't cheap. It may be that the in game price isn't unreasonable.
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Post by W1der » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:22 pm

OK, I googled on this.

Turns out that people buy "mature trees" to raise the value of their property.
However ... this feature is not available in FS17 and we can not sell our property.
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Post by Dusty1424 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:09 pm

I use the placeable trees purely for decoration , it would be nice if we had a few more options though and didn't need to rely on mods , bushes and shrubs would be good to , placed properly they can make a big difference to a map

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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by parad0x177 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:35 pm

W1der wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:22 pm
OK, I googled on this.

Turns out that people buy "mature trees" to raise the value of their property.
However ... this feature is not available in FS17 and we can not sell our property.
That’s actually what I was going to point out. Ornamental or decorative trees are surprisingly expensive, and mature ones are absurdly expensive, especially after you factor in delivery/installation. So, in that respect, the pricing probably isn’t all that far off.

Then, if you consider that it can be next to impossible to get all your money back out of home improvements (despite what TV would imply), it might not be far off with the “can’t sell it” part!? :mrgreen:

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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by Hairy Bob » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:41 pm

I believe the price was raised in 17 to balance the game.
In fs15 you could place trees near a sawmill, cut them down and sell them immediately for much more than the cost of the trees.
Giants lowered the selling price for lumber, and increased the cost of placeable trees to get rid of the exploit.
As you say, anyone can cheat money into their game if they wish, but I can see why the devs would want to avoid having one part of the game be vastly more profitable than any other. It's the same reason they nerfed silage for 17 IMO.
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by W1der » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:57 pm

Well, in FS15 you where able to buy/place pine trees ... you can not do that in FS17.
The placeable e have trees are very time consuming to cut down for selling ... and I never even thought of doing that.
Plenty of suitable trees for selling anyways ...
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by redglasses » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:29 am

Ya they are a bit expensive, but it’s realistic I guess, normally if I’m buying enough trees I’ll just cheat the money back in like some have said here, fruit trees are quite profitable, only problem I have with them is they don’t come with seasons mask, also you can’t cut them down
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by W1der » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:49 am

For me this is more abut changing the map without having to go in to the editor to do it and keep the game MP friendly.

I actually pay for my trees as my "cheat" involves editing the loan.
If I cheat 3 000 000 in to my game I also adjust the loan accordingly and raise the fee of the loan.

But out of these 3 000 000 in starter founds I would not be surprised if 1 000 000 is for placeable trees ... :blushnew:
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by redglasses » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:32 pm

^^that's quite a bit
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Re: Placeable decorations (trees) to expensive !?

Post by ltl.vamp » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:34 am

Don't forget on console: The placeables trees use slots. If you cut them down and even remove the stump, the slots are still used and blocked.
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