Gooseneck trailer

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Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:00 am

I've reason to be shopping for a powerful tractor, and came across the Claas Xerion in the in game Modhub. You need deep pockets. It has some interesting features though, including a high and forward mounted ball hitch for a gooseneck trailer, similar to what you see in pickup beds for camper or horse trailers. I'm wondering if it might be a solution in search of a problem, though, as when i search "gooseneck trailer" all I find is trailers with fifth wheel (semi trailer) type hitches.
I'd love to be able to haul the kind of weight a gooseneck hitch allows, centered between the axles and, on the Xerion up to 33,000 pounds tongue weight, but lacking a gooseneck hitch trailer it might not be an option. Know of any that I've missed? Again, the trailer would have a cup which fits over a ball, not a pin that slides into a fifth wheel.
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Preble 818 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:20 am

Download the fifth wheel mod from the modhub. Theres a gooseneck trailer in with it. No idea if it works with the xerion though.
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:34 am

Those are semi trailer hitch trailers I think...saw a video of during my search. I'll check to be sure, thanks for the tip!

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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:04 am

No joy, that is a fifth wheel (semi) hitch. Gooseneck as a term seems to refer both to the profile of a trailer and to the type of hitch where a ball is mounted in the bed of a pickup. The Xerion has the ball, but it seems kind of useless if nothing can be attached. Doesn't take away from the other features of the tractor, just not a feature in itself.

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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by cmdrbyron » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:31 pm

There are some mod packs (at least on PC - unsure if on console) that include two trailers - a tipper and a slurry tank.

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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:57 pm

Wish I could find them, I really want an excuse to buy a Xerion :biggrin2: :biggrin2: The fact that you can't take advantage of one of it's coolest features has just continued to put me off.

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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by redglasses » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:19 pm

Cant you just drive the tractor or are you playing on a huge map?
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:37 pm

Yeah, I'm just being a jerk, really. The thing is a monster capable of full on semi truck loads using the gooseneck ball, and it just surprises me the lack of gooseneck trailers. Even given it's rotating cab, equal sized wheels, and four wheel steering I don't enjoy just driving it that much, I suppose because it's so darn big. Useful trailers would, I think, be the tipping point for me.

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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Kamoore65536 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:00 pm

The problem with most gooseneck trailers is they are not made to haul that much weight on a ball hitch. Most of the ball type hitches I have been around are limited to 25,000lbs/12,000kg weight maximum. The diameter of the ball shaft is the limiting factor.
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by ClassicTractors » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:51 am

Do you have a picture of this hitch setup? I'm very curious as to what this looks like.
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:11 am

From Claas:

the hitch
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and their comment about it,

"High load-carrying capacity.
The 110 mm ball hitch behind the cab supports a maximum drawbar load of 15 tonnes. A swanneck connection with mounted implements makes the tractor/implement combination shorter and more manoeuvrable than other attachment systems. The hitch ball absorbs the high loads and distributes them evenly across the entire axles."

in action IRL
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and their comment about it,

"The swanneck coupling has become an accepted method of attaching trailed slurry tankers. The 110 mm ball hitch behind the cab is designed to take a maximum drawbar load of 15 t, and the ball position immediately behind the cab distributes the drawbar load across both axles. Having the hitch directly behind the cab gives a smaller turning radius and a much shorter combination length than a tractor with a rear-mounted slurry tanker."

The ball position plus four wheel steering would sure give you tight turns. :biggrin2: The tractor is on the in game ModHub and there you can see the hitch better than the pics I've posted. Unfortunately, you can't try it out :sadnew:
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by ClassicTractors » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:56 am

That's really cool. I knew some of the old Industrial Steiger tractors could get a gooseneck hook up, but I didn't know they (goosenecks) were still used on modern tractors.
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by Sandhill » Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:18 am

:lol: And note that Claas calls them "swannecks", maybe I've been searching the wrong species when I look for gooseneck.

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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by redglasses » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:21 pm

OHHHHHHHH thats what you mean, I thought you wanted to buy a truck and trailer to haul the tractor around :lol:
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Re: Gooseneck trailer

Post by ilovetrains » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:04 pm

AFAIK the only IRL manufacturer that makes equipment to use the swanneck is Kaweco. Note that the ball hitch diameter would be 4.3 inches...quite a bit larger than a 2 5/16 ball hitch for goosenecks (at least in the states.) So you could not use it to pull a typical gooseneck trailer, and of course the height would be way off.

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