Supported Resolutions ? ? ?

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Being around (3) weeks from release Giant surely knows all the particulars of the game. I've been trying to get them to cough up all the supported resolutions for the PC. I'm getting ready to buy a new gaming monitor, and I'm on the fence between a traditional 16:9 ratio and a WQHD (3440 x 1440p) @ 21:9. I was hoping the would post FS19's game options / settings. It sure would be nice to know if they are going to include the newer WQHD ratios. When you release a new game with upped graphics, etc., the latest resolutions should be supported. If they are going to release 19 with the same confines as 17, I'm not going to be happy.
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I have run FS 17 at the following resolutions and I am sure these will be supported again in FS19:
3840x2160
2560x1440
2560x1080
1920x1080

I don't know any reason why they would not let you run at WQHD
Doesn't fs17 support WQHD?
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Modderhoop wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:45 am I have run FS 17 at the following resolutions and I am sure these will be supported again in FS19:
3840x2160
2560x1440
2560x1080
1920x1080

I don't know any reason why they would not let you run at WQHD
Doesn't fs17 support WQHD?
Those are all 16:9 aspect ratios, FS17 doesn't not have any supported resolutions for a 21:9 aspect ratio which is WQHD. The problems comes that Giant is only concerned about supporting resolutions for consoles. Any thing that would benefit FS19 for the PC, has been left out! It takes very little to add resolutions settings to a game. Sometimes gamer's can edit the game settings (profile), and force an unsupported resolution, but it doesn't always work.
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HC1Gunner wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:45 pm
Modderhoop wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:45 am I have run FS 17 at the following resolutions and I am sure these will be supported again in FS19:
3840x2160
2560x1440
2560x1080
1920x1080

I don't know any reason why they would not let you run at WQHD
Doesn't fs17 support WQHD?
Those are all 16:9 aspect ratios, FS17 doesn't not have any supported resolutions for a 21:9 aspect ratio which is WQHD. The problems comes that Giant is only concerned about supporting resolutions for consoles. Any thing that would benefit FS19 for the PC, has been left out! It takes very little to add resolutions settings to a game. Sometimes gamer's can edit the game settings (profile), and force an unsupported resolution, but it doesn't always work.
2560x1080 is 21:9 aspect ratio. I have played the game for over a year whit that resolution just fine, no black bars or stretched screen. :)
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Modderhoop wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:58 pm
HC1Gunner wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:45 pm
Modderhoop wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:45 am I have run FS 17 at the following resolutions and I am sure these will be supported again in FS19:
3840x2160
2560x1440
2560x1080
1920x1080

I don't know any reason why they would not let you run at WQHD
Doesn't fs17 support WQHD?
Those are all 16:9 aspect ratios, FS17 doesn't not have any supported resolutions for a 21:9 aspect ratio which is WQHD. The problems comes that Giant is only concerned about supporting resolutions for consoles. Any thing that would benefit FS19 for the PC, has been left out! It takes very little to add resolutions settings to a game. Sometimes gamer's can edit the game settings (profile), and force an unsupported resolution, but it doesn't always work.
2560x1080 is 21:9 aspect ratio. I have played the game for over a year whit that resolution just fine, no black bars or stretched screen. :)
You must be forcing this with an edit, FS17 supports 4:3, 16:9, and 16:10 ratio's, there is no 2560x1080, closest one is 2560x1600 @ 16:10
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Actually, FS just takes the supported resolutions from the OS.
If you haven't connected a 21:9 monitor, you can't select 21:9 resolutions.
If you haven't connected a 4K screen, you can't select 4K resolution.
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bassaddict wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:12 am Actually, FS just takes the supported resolutions from the OS.
If you haven't connected a 21:9 monitor, you can't select 21:9 resolutions.
If you haven't connected a 4K screen, you can't select 4K resolution.
Is it possible to inform us on the additional PS4 Pro features?

What I mean is that FS17 has 1080P, 1440P and 2160P resolutions on PS4 Pro.
However, higher graphic settings are enabled only on 1440P and 2160P resolutions and if we want those higher settings on a 1080P monitor we need to use the "supersampling" mode on Pro which take additional GPU power and this affects the gaming performance.
So, the highest possible graphic settings on a 1080P native resolution would be much much appreciated.
I hope you can give us a clue on this issue.

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Not sure I quite understand what your are asking, but if you want to run a higher resolution that what your TV/Monitor supports, you are gaining nothing. If you TV is native (max res) 1080p, then that is all the higher the game game run. You can't run 1440 or 2160 on a TV that has max resolution of 1080p. Forgive me if I misinterpreted your question.
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This is way too long to make a technical explanation on how ps4 pro works in resolution wise. It took me hours of watching videos and reading technical articles.

But in summary, you only get a default set of grpahic settings on ps4 games. They are done by the developer. As pro has 2.3 times the gpu computing power of the regular ps4, developers can either add some graphic settings options in their game or leave it to the machine to handle the transition. And pro only activates the highest graphic settings if it is connected to a 4k screen.

But sony came up with a solution for those who has a 1080P screen. It is called supersampling mode. When you activate it, pro basically processes all the grpahics like it is connected to a 4k screen. It renders the picture in 4k with high settings than donwsamples it to 1080P and sends it to the screen. But for this to work, game should also support the feature.

So, what I'm basically asking to Giants is, did they leave the job to supersampling mode or did they give us graphic setting for 1080P resolution.

Because supersampling takes a fair amount of gpu power which makes pro perform like a regular ps4. This is much noticeable on some mod maps in the form of lag or stutter or fps drops.
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I don't mean to be smart but what exactly do you think will happen if the graphics are ramped up like you are asking? If there is lag with supersampling then there will surely be lag if the graphics are at the highest setting whether it's done by supersampling or game settings.
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He saying if Giant does it, there is less draw on the GPU than the Sony's mod. But I guess not using I console I don't understand what the supersampling mode is doing. I've heard of TV's taking a lower resolution video and up-scaling it, which actually improves the video quality. But, what are you gaining if you downscale something? Mainly you get better graphics quality at higher resolutions on Monitors/TV's that support it by the fact that you have more pixels on the screen. Again not owning a PS4 Pro and running the supersampling mode, I don't see what is gained by down-scaling 4K or 1440P (2K) to 1080p. You can't fill in lines that don't exist. But your lucky if you can get anything answered by Giant, especially since they are in "crunch time" being just couple weeks from release. I even sent a letter to Giant, and never got any type of reply. I have an open support ticket that is over (6) weeks old, and has never been replied to once.
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Did you not bother to read the reply from bassaddict or you just chose to ignore it?
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Guil wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:04 pm Did you not bother to read the reply from bassaddict or you just chose to ignore it?
That has nothing to do with the "supersampling mode" from Sony that he is running with his PS4 Pro. And the last I knew the PS4 did not run a Windows OS, and bassaddict's reply has nothing to do with RODHA's reply.
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HC1Gunner wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:26 pm I don't see what is gained by down-scaling 4K or 1440P (2K) to 1080p. You can't fill in lines that don't exist.
It is not about downscaling a 4K image into 1080P. The game basically has 4 sets of different graphic settings for Pro.

1) 1080P normal
2) 1080P enhanced
3) 1440P
4) 2160P

These are not just resolution differences. They also have their own graphics detail settings. When you choose one of those options you get the related detail settings too.

For example 1080P has regular PS4 settings. 1080P enhanced doesn't get any detail upgrades but it has longer drawing distance. 1440P and 2160P don't have longer drawing distance but higher graphics details.

So, when you choose 2160P on a 1080P monitor, Pro basically tells the game that it is connected to a 4K screen so the game engine lets the Pro to render the graphics in 4K with its own graphic detail settings but as it is meaningless to send a 4K image to a 1080P monitor it then downscales the image into 1080P (without loosing the extra details that comes with the 4K settings) and sends it to the screen. This way you get 1080P image with better graphics settings. But this takes additional gpu power.

So, in order to bother with that if Giants gives us a simple menu of basic graphic settings, we can use that on a native 1080P screen. This way we use the gpu just for boosting up the details without the extra load of supersampling system.
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I play on regular 1080p.
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