[FS19] improving yield - can the max yield bonus exceed 65% or it is a max?

[tecto]

So in the manual on the last tab in the menu under "Improving yield" is a following info:

To obtain a 65% yield bonus you must:
- Spread fertilizer twice (+25% each time)
- Spread lime every 3 harvests (+15%)

And to avoid a 35% yield malus, you must:
- Remove bad weeds (otherwise -20%)
- Plow after corn, potatoes, sugar beets and sugarcane (otherwise -15%)

So I have a question regarding yield bonus. It's understandable to me how to obtain 65% - I need to follow advises above.
However in the "Oilseed radish" description is a following info:

(...) It's a so-called green manure and works as a fertilizer, increasing your next yield by 30%

So what about this oilseed radish 30% bonus? Is this "included" in this 65% bonus from the classic fertilizing and lime?
Or maybe it is an additional bonus, which finally provides 65%+30%=95% of yield bonus - assuming that I will do every step listed above?

[RODHA]

Radish is a type of fertilizing.
So it acts as a fertilizer state.

[tecto]

Radish is a type of fertilizing.
So it acts as a fertilizer state.

I know that but It's not the answer to my question. Thanks anyway.

[Gimli54]

I would probably just count as one if the two fertilizer states I don’t think it’ll add to the base 50% as it is

[tecto]

Yeah,
so in other words my question is what will happen if I do the following steps:
1. Spread fertilizer twice (+25% each time)
2. Spread lime every 3 harvests (+15%)
3. Plant and cultivate oilseed radish (+30%)
Will the bonus be = 25+25+15+30 = 95% ?

What will then happen if I:
1. Spread fertilizer once (+25%)
2. Spread lime every 3 harvests (+15%)
3. Plant and cultivate oilseed radish (+30%)
Will the bonus be = 25+15+30 = 70% ?

And finally what will happen if I:
1. Spread lime every 3 harvests (+15%)
2. Plant and cultivate oilseed radish (+30%)
Will the bonus be = 15+30 = 45% ?

So the general question is whether this oilseed radish fertilizing is the additional value to this 65% guaranteed by classic fertilizing and lime or the max bonus will always be 65%?

[crash]

Turn of off everything, get 100%

[tecto]

Does anybody figured this out?

[Guitarman]

Possibly it's a typo from where the fertiliser states were 30% each on 17.

But you never know so we do need to test it or get confirmation.

[Psistorm]

I was wondering about the same thing, maybe one of the devs could shed light on the intended use - and bonuses - of oilseed radish use. I would love for it to become a very viable option.
In FS17 seasons it was THE choice for field prep in fall, so without it it should also have something to make it appealing as a tradeoff for investing the time and resources to grow it.

[crash]

cover crop will give you a fert stage?

[DirectCedar]

cover crop will give you a fert stage?

Yeah it's sort of a weird gamification of cover cropping. Fertilizer stages were used as a catch-all for just about any agronomic practice in 17. Cover crops (specifically a non-leguminous one like radish ), fertilizing, manuring, rolling after seeding, weeding, spraying... all these operations had the same effect on the crop of adding one fert stage. The lime mod I believe just made lime another fert stage too.

In real life of course all these practices have production benefits but most of them don't affect fertility.

I think the system in 19 where lime, herbicide, and fertilizer all have separate effects is much better.

The system is slowly inching its way towards the comprehensiveness of soilmod from FS15

[erfon1]

first answers are so dumb to the point I think they must be trolling, anyway, I'm about to test it with corn, I'll let you know in a few minutes

[Curthbert]

you can create couple small fields with a plow each just wide enough for a harvester and test it...it will be easier than to do tests on whole fields maybe

[throsbi]

Interested in this also. Reading the info in game it leads one to believe its a bonus on top of everything else. If it is I think thats a good thing to encourage you to use oil seed radish. Otherwise I dont see one player bothering with it. Everyone is simply going to use a giant fert spreader for lime/fert or a sprayer for fert/herbicide and no one will ever use oil seed radish.

I dont remember anyone ever using it streaming or in videos in FS17 unless it was for a demonstration to explain what oil seed radish was and how to use it.

I have seen a few videos talking about this same topic but havent run across anyone actually testing it yet.

Hope it turns out to be a bonus to yield over all. Finally planted OSR today but forgot to leave half the field without it for science.

[Jam4430]

Just tested it and there was no yield difference between plow, lime, osr, fert, fert, herbicide and plow, lime, fert, fert, herbicide. Osr did not show up as a fertilizer stage after tillage.