Fertilizer in seeders pointless

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Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Denhalen » Wed May 29, 2019 7:49 pm

A lot of seeders have also fertilizer. Although the seeder does deposit the fertilizer on the field, the map info (as well as the info box about the field) doesn't show that it has a new fertilizer stage. You are forced to fertilize afterwards or beforehand. This really beats the purpose of having fertilizer in the seeder. It adds only to the extra usage + the cost of refilling it. And since hired helpers don't seed, without the fertilizer, you can't go without it. Sure, I could do all the fields myself.

I have a feeling it never worked in any of the versions of FS19. Unless you have to wait at least 2 growth stages.

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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by asyvan » Wed May 29, 2019 8:23 pm

You are doing it wrong. It sure works just fine.
Here is how I do it:
1. Plow (if required)
2. Lime (if required)
3. Fertiziler layer #1 (spread)
4. Cultivate the Lime and Fertilizer into the ground
5. Seed including fertilizer layer #2
6. Spray Herbicide once weed is growing

If you skip #4 above, then the fertilizer in the seeder will not get you the 2nd layer.

The trick is that you can not fertilize (in any way) two times in a row. You must either cultivate between or let the crop grow one stage between.
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Aholz89 » Wed May 29, 2019 8:25 pm

I usually spread manure after cultivating/plowing = Fert stage 1.

Then direct drill with fertilizer = Fert stage 2.

Works fine for me, but there may be something regarding which kind of fert you use? If you spread solid fert and then drill with solid fert it still counts as one stage?
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Avegooday » Wed May 29, 2019 8:33 pm

Personally, I always seed including fertilizer after cultivating (stage 1). Then, after the crops have started to grow, I can apply fertilizers (solid, liquid) again (stage 2) and it works fine.

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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Goose66 » Wed May 29, 2019 8:38 pm

Aholz89 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:25 pm
I usually spread manure after cultivating/plowing = Fert stage 1.

Then direct drill with fertilizer = Fert stage 2.

Works fine for me, but there may be something regarding which kind of fert you use? If you spread solid fert and then drill with solid fert it still counts as one stage?

Same for me. Slurry or manure then drill.
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by IceUul » Thu May 30, 2019 8:57 am

I think the problems is difference between FS17 and FS19.

In FS17 the seeder with fertilizing and direct seeding worked like this: First it cultivated the ground, then it applied the seeds, then fertilizer.
But in FS19 it does not work this way. Basically the direct seeding does not reset fertilization state, but you can do this way in FS19 now:
1. Fertilize
2. Cultivate/Lime/Plow
3. Seed with any seeder
4. Fertilize again, if seeder did not do it.

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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Denhalen » Thu May 30, 2019 9:33 am

I have tried fertilize after harvest, then cultivate. But after seeding it stayed on stage #1. Even if I don't fertilize, it doesn't work for me. I plow and lime every time it is required. It must be due to a mod or modded map, that this isn't working. As in the beginning it did work, when I still was doing the original European map.

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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Guil » Thu May 30, 2019 9:42 am

Are you playing on a mod map?

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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by livesea72 » Thu May 30, 2019 9:45 am

Not sure if you have a bug or am somehow doing it wrong. I've never had a issue with a seeder that fertilizes not work. It ferts the planting stage then i fert when the field states 50% fertilization state after first stage of growth and im done.
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by cwattyeso » Thu May 30, 2019 11:57 am

I've always Fertilised/Manure Spread/Slurry Spread after harvesting, then Ploughed or Cultivated the Field, then Seeded or Planted with a tool that also applies Fertiliser and always get the 2nd stage Fertilisation and have no need to do any other fertilising during the whole crop growth stage again.
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Tylercheesey1986 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:09 pm

asyvan wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:23 pm
You are doing it wrong. It sure works just fine.
Here is how I do it:
1. Plow (if required)
2. Lime (if required)
3. Fertiziler layer #1 (spread)
4. Cultivate the Lime and Fertilizer into the ground
5. Seed including fertilizer layer #2
6. Spray Herbicide once weed is growing

If you skip #4 above, then the fertilizer in the seeder will not get you the 2nd layer.

The trick is that you can not fertilize (in any way) two times in a row. You must either cultivate between or let the crop grow one stage between.
You are spot on my friend that's the way its done. No need for narrows then either
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Tylercheesey1986 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:11 pm

*That is unless the weeds creep up on you in the later growth states
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by CMDRTAKEDOWN » Thu May 30, 2019 12:36 pm

I herbicide straight after the seeding. Can't use a worker for it since no weeds present, but it stops the weeds died before they show up.
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by Tylercheesey1986 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:45 pm

CMDRTAKEDOWN wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 12:36 pm
I herbicide straight after the seeding. Can't use a worker for it since no weeds present, but it stops the weeds died before they show up.
Really that works, that's awesome, I hate waiting for weeds to pop up to get rid of them, never thought of putting down herbicide before they appear.
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Re: Fertilizer in seeders pointless

Post by asyvan » Thu May 30, 2019 1:24 pm

CMDRTAKEDOWN wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 12:36 pm
I herbicide straight after the seeding. Can't use a worker for it since no weeds present, but it stops the weeds died before they show up.
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