For all the JHHG fans

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For all the JHHG fans

Post by Drmattymd » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:09 pm

This is from Siid Modding facebook.

Hi, I think you noticed that I ended up working with JHHG,
as the gull is making too much of it, first he used my work to make a "name", I asked him many times, that first of all new works will be posted for me, he did not do it, after some quarrels, he did, but staged a post 1 minute after me. Later, instead of ending with sts, he started to do s series and abandoning sts, at the cost of s series, took models, left me with unfinished work. He forbade to take pictures of s series that he was only on his fanpage like they have to agree, In the meantime he argued with custom modding and other groups of modding, afraid that he would publish my work, I remained silent until today

This man can not do anything without third parties. In addition to copying, he uses models of other authors for his work, only the problem is in you that you let him. I'm surprised that BlendArt continues to work with him

Because of him I had a problem with the Giants and I did not want to work for you. I asked him not to take part in Custom Modding, he promised he would not use them, but he lied to me again, eventually Giants blocked him and his "supposedly" work. I also heard that he was receiving subsidies for STS, which is not his job, he is a co-author in 35%.
Due to the fact that he is such and not a different man, I am asking you not to support someone who lives by someone else's work, as you have noticed but editions, while taking things from other authors.

If I knew what I would get involved in earlier, I would not do it again.

Now he is editing my models and says they are his.
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by village80 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:20 pm

So siid. CM and 3 others that I know of have had problems with JHHG.

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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by eight_lugs » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:28 pm

So much drama for a game.

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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Walrusman02 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:36 pm

eight_lugs wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:28 pm
So much drama for a game.
if you put as much effort into something like what they do, you would be mad if someone stole your work too, wouldnt you?
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by eight_lugs » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:05 pm

Walrusman02 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:36 pm
eight_lugs wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:28 pm
So much drama for a game.
if you put as much effort into something like what they do, you would be mad if someone stole your work too, wouldnt you?
If you release a mod you can’t expect someone not to steal it. Just the way people are.

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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Guil » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:14 pm

For a minute I thought I read my name haha. I'll leave this be as long as it doesn't descend into wild accusations or arguments.

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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Rbk_3 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:46 am

The problem I have with him is I paid him the 20usd to support him and he revoked my access to beta test his mods because someone else leaked a beta mod. That was like half the cost of the game I gave him.
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Rasping rabbit » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:07 am

Rbk_3 wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:46 am
The problem I have with him is I paid him the 20usd to support him and he revoked my access to beta test his mods because someone else leaked a beta mod. That was like half the cost of the game I gave him.
Well from what you typed here, you donated to support him? Or did you pay him for access to his mods?

If it’s the first one there really isn’t an issue, you did a nice thing for a modder, something a lot of us have done.

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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Deadeye » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:31 am

Rasping rabbit wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:07 am
Rbk_3 wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:46 am
The problem I have with him is I paid him the 20usd to support him and he revoked my access to beta test his mods because someone else leaked a beta mod. That was like half the cost of the game I gave him.
Well from what you typed here, you donated to support him? Or did you pay him for access to his mods?

If it’s the first one there really isn’t an issue, you did a nice thing for a modder, something a lot of us have done.
Even if it was the latter though, isn't it his money? Shouldn't he be able to do as he wishes?
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Drmattymd » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:22 am

Deadeye wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:31 am

Even if it was the latter though, isn't it his money? Shouldn't he be able to do as he wishes?
I think his point was, if it was a donation then its just that, a donation with no reasonable expectation of any return compensation. But if he actually PAID for access to mods then were denied that access, then in fact the actions of JHHG are again unscrupulous at best.
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Ritchie » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:36 am

As soon as money is involved, whether as a "donation" or not there are always going to be situations like this. As modding is a hobby for these folks, why are donations even a thing? It wouldn't even enter my head to ask for or give donations for modding.
I presume most modders are doing it because they enjoy it and no one is forcing them to share their mods so why do they even need donations?
As for paying to test or get early access to mods, that's just nuts. As long as folks are willing to pay money for mods then there will be people willing to exploit that situation.

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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Tomazius96 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:40 pm

Paid mods are always a scam. I have such experience from ETS2. I paid 10€ for a mod, after someone leaked it (Idk if that even true, but thats what modder said) the modder decided to block all the download links and stoped the support for that mod. The guy just took our money, pulled out from modding and thats it. After a while, he will just make another site and scam other people. And you have a mod thats useless on the latest version of the game. I learned that hard way. Never buying anything that havent an official licence.
That early beta "donation" is a pure bullcrap.
Dont sell mods, just keep them private or release them for free. Anyway is ilegal if you dont have a license agreement with the manufacturer and you sell the mods or put them behind some fake ass "beta testing".
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by chedly_farms » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:24 pm

I don't understand how people can charge money ( wether an actual fee or "donation" ) for mods that they don't have a license for. That is illegal. IMO have your mods released through Giants and that's all. And if someone wants to take "parts" of another mod to make an American version or whatever, you ask communicate with who made those parts in the first place, and then when it's all finished you ask them if the want to be credited with helping create it. If modders are doing it for the community and for the players, they should have no issues with that. If they are doing it for the money, go away, we don't want you in our community.

Being said that I have no issues with modders have a patreon account on say Facebook or something, to help with computer expenses and upgrades.
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by Beastbubba » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:49 pm

Donations are fine. Modders can do amazing things and I have no issue with them getting some support for their work and efforts. But putting their work behind a pay wall is BS. Modders should release all their mods freely to the community and be happy that others enjoy their work.

If they have no intention of releasing a mod they shoulden't be posting pics and status updates on it, that's a jerk move...
If they do release it they shoulden't get mad nor expect others not to tweak it, and release that (as long as their name is in credits and noted as original author). But anyone tweaking a mod and releasing it should give credits to the original author as much as they can (as far as putting a link to the authors site if they have one).

This is a game that we all pay to play and Giants gives us the tools to make mods freely so the community can more easily create more content or edit content. This isen't an mmo where others are affected by mods, let people play the way they want...
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Re: For all the JHHG fans

Post by billy_roberts_81 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:45 pm

If you release your own original mod publicly on the internet you haven't automatically given up your rights to it. So people cannot do whatever they want to it.

Creative copyright law is quite straight forward on this matter.

With regards Farm Sim mods, once the model has been ingamed using GE you have automatically agreed when you brought the game to share that creative copyright licence with GIANTS.

No one else has any right to change or alter it at all.

However most modders have no issue with people editing there mod for your own personal use.

The only time modders have an issue is when people take there original work and publish it without permission.

If you have spent hundreds of hours making something from scratch it's only right to respect what that person has done.

You wouldn't rip off a musican's song or an artists painting and feel it was ok to pass it off as your own. Creative copyright applies to all.

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