Small Guide on PC's

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Ok here are my selections. Input and criticism are welcome as I know not what I am doing. :biggrin2:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9YcdX

I will break it up into multiple purchases to account for the additional cost from my previous budget. Hopefully with additional time between each purchase will reduce some of the cost in the end.
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iB055 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:28 pm Ok here are my selections. Input and criticism are welcome as I know not what I am doing. :biggrin2:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9YcdX

I will break it up into multiple purchases to account for the additional cost from my previous budget. Hopefully with additional time between each purchase will reduce some of the cost in the end.
Parts are pretty decent, although in my attempt to keep to a budget, I'll admit, I overlooked one factor, that being the CPU cooler, while a lot of the AMD processors come with stock coolers, I'm not sure how good they are for gaming.

Below are 3 coolers that I'd likely go with.

Hyper 212 Evo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG ... 212e20pkr2

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6 ... nh-l9a-am4

M22 Kraken: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT ... l-krm22-01
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L2K Perma wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:48 pm
iB055 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:28 pm Ok here are my selections. Input and criticism are welcome as I know not what I am doing. :biggrin2:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9YcdX

I will break it up into multiple purchases to account for the additional cost from my previous budget. Hopefully with additional time between each purchase will reduce some of the cost in the end.
Parts are pretty decent, although in my attempt to keep to a budget, I'll admit, I overlooked one factor, that being the CPU cooler, while a lot of the AMD processors come with stock coolers, I'm not sure how good they are for gaming.

Below are 3 coolers that I'd likely go with.

Hyper 212 Evo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG ... 212e20pkr2

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6 ... nh-l9a-am4

M22 Kraken: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT ... l-krm22-01
True. In this case though a cooler wasn't overlooked, I chose to stick with stock for now as my planned applications shouldn't be too taxing yet. That being said, it looks like all 3 of those are also compatible with my choice of CPU so its nice to have the options to upgrade later as needed.
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iB055 wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:34 am
L2K Perma wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:48 pm
iB055 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:28 pm Ok here are my selections. Input and criticism are welcome as I know not what I am doing. :biggrin2:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9YcdX

I will break it up into multiple purchases to account for the additional cost from my previous budget. Hopefully with additional time between each purchase will reduce some of the cost in the end.
Parts are pretty decent, although in my attempt to keep to a budget, I'll admit, I overlooked one factor, that being the CPU cooler, while a lot of the AMD processors come with stock coolers, I'm not sure how good they are for gaming.

Below are 3 coolers that I'd likely go with.

Hyper 212 Evo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG ... 212e20pkr2

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6 ... nh-l9a-am4

M22 Kraken: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT ... l-krm22-01
True. In this case though a cooler wasn't overlooked, I chose to stick with stock for now as my planned applications shouldn't be too taxing yet. That being said, it looks like all 3 of those are also compatible with my choice of CPU so its nice to have the options to upgrade later as needed.
As long as you're not overclocking anything you should be good for a bit. When I put mine together I knew I'd need one since I have games like Fallout, AC: Odyssey, Metro Exodus, soon to be Ark: Survival Evolved among others which definitely makes it so I'd need one, my gpu alone sometimes reaches into the 75/80 c range.

If you go with the M22 Kraken, you will likely need to remove the bracket that comes on it and put the other one on. Generally they come with the Intel bracket attached.
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L2K Perma wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:19 pm
SJ_Sathanas wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:08 pm
L2K Perma wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:06 pm This should be able to easily run FS in 1080p, as well as blender and giants editor. It's a little bit over the budget you posted but not by much.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xXBNRJ

Also yes, you do need to buy the operating system. 95% of enthusiasts on YouTube will tell you to buy the OS off a key reseller as they are far cheaper, bought my windows 10 pro OS for about $15 whereas to buy it from Microsoft, it would have been over $100.
As a rouge guide how would that build compaire to an Xbox One? I'm looking to get PC and don't want to downgrade the visuals.
If I recall I believe the graphics card in the Xbox One X is similar in performance to the RX 580, so visually they'd likely be about the same, however, while I can't say for the X, I know most games on Xbox run about medium settings compared to PC.

I also took a look at user benchmarks and the 570, averaged 51 fps on The Witcher 3 on max settings on 1080p, so FS19, should be no problem at max.
While the graphics card power of a 580 is roughly similar to a One X, the PC will run it waaaaaay better than a One X because any half decent processor will be 10x better than what is in the X. A Ryzen 2600 for a little over $100 is waaaay more powerful than what is in the X which is a slightly up clocked shitty Jaguar from 2013. Also on your PC you will have way more Ram/Vram. Xbox has 12GB shared I believe between Ram/Vram, while an RX580 alone has 8GB and if you put in 16GB of system Ram that is a combined 24GB, or double that of an X.
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L2K Perma wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:48 pm
iB055 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:28 pm Ok here are my selections. Input and criticism are welcome as I know not what I am doing. :biggrin2:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9YcdX

I will break it up into multiple purchases to account for the additional cost from my previous budget. Hopefully with additional time between each purchase will reduce some of the cost in the end.
Parts are pretty decent, although in my attempt to keep to a budget, I'll admit, I overlooked one factor, that being the CPU cooler, while a lot of the AMD processors come with stock coolers, I'm not sure how good they are for gaming.

Below are 3 coolers that I'd likely go with.

Hyper 212 Evo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG ... 212e20pkr2

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6 ... nh-l9a-am4

M22 Kraken: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT ... l-krm22-01
He doesn't need anything more than a stock cooler on the 2600 as you can't overclock it anyway. Also, since you're buying a non overclocking chip that motherboard is way overkill imo. Also, I would get faster Ram, Ryzen likes faster Ram a lot more than Intel chips/ 3000mhz is the bare minimum, I would go with 3600.

I slightly downgraded the board, and upgraded the Ram to 3600 and it comes in a t the same price.
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Rbk_3 wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:43 am
L2K Perma wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:48 pm
iB055 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:28 pm Ok here are my selections. Input and criticism are welcome as I know not what I am doing. :biggrin2:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y9YcdX

I will break it up into multiple purchases to account for the additional cost from my previous budget. Hopefully with additional time between each purchase will reduce some of the cost in the end.
Parts are pretty decent, although in my attempt to keep to a budget, I'll admit, I overlooked one factor, that being the CPU cooler, while a lot of the AMD processors come with stock coolers, I'm not sure how good they are for gaming.

Below are 3 coolers that I'd likely go with.

Hyper 212 Evo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG ... 212e20pkr2

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6 ... nh-l9a-am4

M22 Kraken: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT ... l-krm22-01
He doesn't need anything more than a stock cooler on the 2600 as you can't overclock it anyway. Also, since you're buying a non overclocking chip that motherboard is way overkill imo. Also, I would get faster Ram, Ryzen likes faster Ram a lot more than Intel chips/ 3000mhz is the bare minimum, I would go with 3600.

I slightly downgraded the board, and upgraded the Ram to 3600 and it comes in a t the same price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWXHkd
Everywhere I've seen, all AMD chips in the Ryzen series can be overclocked, while the x versions have better performance off the bat due to the higher base clock.

There's also an article on tom's hardware showing theirs clocked to 4.2 ghz.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/am ... 625-2.html

This is another article that directly compares the 2600 to the 2600x, in which they say both are unlocked processors.
https://www.techspot.com/article/1618-r ... x-vs-2600/
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L2K Perma wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:07 am
Rbk_3 wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:43 am
L2K Perma wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:48 pm
Parts are pretty decent, although in my attempt to keep to a budget, I'll admit, I overlooked one factor, that being the CPU cooler, while a lot of the AMD processors come with stock coolers, I'm not sure how good they are for gaming.

Below are 3 coolers that I'd likely go with.

Hyper 212 Evo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG ... 212e20pkr2

Noctua: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZfhP6 ... nh-l9a-am4

M22 Kraken: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT ... l-krm22-01
He doesn't need anything more than a stock cooler on the 2600 as you can't overclock it anyway. Also, since you're buying a non overclocking chip that motherboard is way overkill imo. Also, I would get faster Ram, Ryzen likes faster Ram a lot more than Intel chips/ 3000mhz is the bare minimum, I would go with 3600.

I slightly downgraded the board, and upgraded the Ram to 3600 and it comes in a t the same price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWXHkd
Everywhere I've seen, all AMD chips in the Ryzen series can be overclocked, while the x versions have better performance off the bat due to the higher base clock.

There's also an article on tom's hardware showing theirs clocked to 4.2 ghz.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/am ... 625-2.html

This is another article that directly compares the 2600 to the 2600x, in which they say both are unlocked processors.
https://www.techspot.com/article/1618-r ... x-vs-2600/
Ah my mistake then. I assumed it was the same as Intel's non K processors.
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Rbk_3 wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:00 am Ah my mistake then. I assumed it was the same as Intel's non K processors.
It's one that I'm sure alot of people do, pretty sure I thought the same while I was looking into it a all before I built mine. Another thing I saw is that you recommended getting 3600 ram, though, the mobos at least the one you switched to and the one in his list, looking at the specs, they don't support that frequency. It could still work but I'm just not entirely sure on that aspect specifically.
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L2K Perma wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:12 am
Rbk_3 wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:00 am Ah my mistake then. I assumed it was the same as Intel's non K processors.
It's one that I'm sure alot of people do, pretty sure I thought the same while I was looking into it a all before I built mine. Another thing I saw is that you recommended getting 3600 ram, though, the mobos at least the one you switched to and the one in his list, looking at the specs, they don't support that frequency. It could still work but I'm just not entirely sure on that aspect specifically.
Interesting. I am not sure about that, it has my board listed as 2666 max but I am definitely running at 3000mhz in the XMP profile

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GPdxFT ... orus-elite

Edit: Asus website says that board is up to 3466mhz
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards ... B450-PLUS/

and my board says up to 4266mhz so those PC Part Picker #s aren't correct for either board
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z3 ... -rev-10#kf
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I understand the initial board was a bit much for the choice of CPU but I was looking at it as a solid platform to build and upgrade on without the need of upgrading the mobo when I'm able to get a better CPU and video card. It just goes to show how little I know about these things. :lol:
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See the thing with pc's is that you can go all out and leave room for upgrades etc but in a years time those upgrades will likely be meh. it's a never ending game of cat and mouse so I think buy whatever ya think will do what ya want for now and over spec a small bit.

That been said though, my pc is god know how many years old and I just updated the processor, ram, put in an ssd I had and got a graphics card. Still cheap.

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so idk about the 2600 but my 1700 LOVES ram.. I cant tell u how much my system has benefited from the extra 16g of ram.. also.. u should look into a bigger ssd.. yea I know.. they r expensive.. but once u hit steam and get a couple games on that ssd u will regret such a small drive.. probably a lot sooner than u think lol.. I went to the Crucial site and got my ram cheap but omg my 2tb ssd was only about $200 which was the cheapest I have found for a new drive especially of that size.. yea its a budget increase but those things combined with your other selections and u will be running really smooth and will absolutely justify the extra cost.. just food for thought
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You could most likely put the 3800x on your x370 mobo. Most manufacturers offer support after a bios upgrade. Asus does it for all their x370 for example.
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