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Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:15 pm
by george.earlslight
Ado239 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:10 pm
I know exactly where you're coming from. But i don't mean a proper hill i mean like on a slight incline. A real bale and real ground aren't as absolutely solid as in game so a round bale won't roll as easy.
This would require the ground and bale (or at least only the bale), to be modeled with "soft" material, whereas now they're made rigid.
You can see soft materials in some big bag mods, but I think it would be too computationally heavy for more than a couple of bales using the current game engine.

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:58 pm
by Loss
does anyone know what this mod does?

Our QA team is currently testing the following mods: [PC] Added realism for vehicles

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:53 pm
by Ado239
george.earlslight wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:15 pm
Ado239 wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:10 pm
I know exactly where you're coming from. But i don't mean a proper hill i mean like on a slight incline. A real bale and real ground aren't as absolutely solid as in game so a round bale won't roll as easy.
This would require the ground and bale (or at least only the bale), to be modeled with "soft" material, whereas now they're made rigid.
You can see soft materials in some big bag mods, but I think it would be too computationally heavy for more than a couple of bales using the current game engine.
I'd absolutely settle for heavier bales

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:59 pm
by Beastbubba
Yes the physics are better than 17, but still not good...

Objects (bales, headers, and f/l attachments tending to be the worst) still vibrate and slide around for no reason when on a trailer, or in case of bales/pallets stacked.

And lets not forget there is still the issue with pallets getting stuck on forks...

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:15 pm
by 1992Tadej1992
Use autoloader then.

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:37 pm
by astro80
Loss wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:58 pm
does anyone know what this mod does?

Our QA team is currently testing the following mods: [PC] Added realism for vehicles
Same question for me, anyone know what's is this?

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:58 pm
by Doc3d
I suspect it’s something that turns out to be trivial, like forced 900 degrees steering ratio, or incab stereo radio speakers. But a tiny part of me still hopes it’s something that is actually meaningful

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 am
by adriancos
astro80 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:44 pm
did you like the physics of the game? i try to play fs19 but without MR for me it`s hard to enjoy this version. the tractors seems to be overpowered and the implements seems to have no weight. it is useless to use a weight with a plow for example. i like the new graphic and other new implementation but for me it`s very arcade game. i hope we have mr mod or something like this. :sadnew:
arcade, with close to zero realism, also my opinion
I did a test and Fiat 1300 DT tractor (150 hp) can work with BEDNAR cultivator (500 hp recommended requirement) with 6-7 km/h. Should't be able to even move with that cultivator lowered into the ground.

A question for the people who play mostly this version (19): is this valid for most of the combinations of tractors - implements? Is there some safeguard in place that stops you from working an implement using a tractor that is way too under powered for it? Or you can use anything with a smaller or bigger penalty to working speed?

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:03 am
by IceUul
adriancos wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 am
A question for the people who play mostly this version (19): is this valid for most of the combinations of tractors - implements? Is there some safeguard in place that stops you from working an implement using a tractor that is way too under powered for it? Or you can use anything with a smaller or bigger penalty to working speed?
Nothing stops you, you can use any implement with any machine, just the working speed will be lower or not moving at all.
For example tried to use the squarebaler with 100hp tractor, after i turned it on, it took so much power away from PTO that tractor
could not move anymore.
Seems that the game physics engine allows to do things like that, but sadly the balance between the equipment is not optimized.

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:18 am
by adriancos
IceUul wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:03 am
adriancos wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 am
A question for the people who play mostly this version (19): is this valid for most of the combinations of tractors - implements? Is there some safeguard in place that stops you from working an implement using a tractor that is way too under powered for it? Or you can use anything with a smaller or bigger penalty to working speed?
Nothing stops you, you can use any implement with any machine, just the working speed will be lower or not moving at all.
For example tried to use the squarebaler with 100hp tractor, after i turned it on, it took so much power away from PTO that tractor
could not move anymore.
Seems that the game physics engine allows to do things like that, but sadly the balance between the equipment is not optimized.
so where PTO is required, the implement can not move if power is not enough, this is interesting, it is a step up in the right direction

hopefully the physics will become more of interest for Giants, even if they will do it with a switch on/off, to allow all the players to play according with their preference

thank you for the info :)

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:30 pm
by astro80
adriancos wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:18 am
IceUul wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:03 am
adriancos wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 am
A question for the people who play mostly this version (19): is this valid for most of the combinations of tractors - implements? Is there some safeguard in place that stops you from working an implement using a tractor that is way too under powered for it? Or you can use anything with a smaller or bigger penalty to working speed?
Nothing stops you, you can use any implement with any machine, just the working speed will be lower or not moving at all.
For example tried to use the squarebaler with 100hp tractor, after i turned it on, it took so much power away from PTO that tractor
could not move anymore.
Seems that the game physics engine allows to do things like that, but sadly the balance between the equipment is not optimized.
so where PTO is required, the implement can not move if power is not enough, this is interesting, it is a step up in the right direction

hopefully the physics will become more of interest for Giants, even if they will do it with a switch on/off, to allow all the players to play according with their preference

thank you for the info :)
With this kind of stuff for me is unplayable at this moment. I like the graphics improvements and the new features of the game, the new stuff of the season mod it's very interesting but without MR and gearbox in my opinion it's just a game and not a simulation.

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:18 pm
by blue_painted
I've been ploughing on Lipinki with 150hp tractor on a 150hp plough ... going upslope I get down to 3 kph, with lots of wheel-slip, down hill I run at 12 kph ... on vanilla FS19

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:33 pm
by Mobias
The animated seat suspension in the game is a really nice touch and certainly helps the game 'look' more realistic in terms of how the physics effects things. I'm pretty certain I've seen improvements in the games physics since release in various updates.

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:50 am
by astro80
Mobias wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:33 pm
The animated seat suspension in the game is a really nice touch and certainly helps the game 'look' more realistic in terms of how the physics effects things. I'm pretty certain I've seen improvements in the games physics since release in various updates.
Of course the basic phisyc is better than fs17 but it's still unrealistic in my opinion.

Re: fs 19 physics discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:17 pm
by JPS
If I drive against a wall with my front wheel, without fail I will be driving up the wall…. I can't remember FS17 doing that and I don't like it one bit. It's like everything is made of rubber.