PF & Grass

[DMZ Commander]

I just want to confirm that plowed status and weeds are not a thing with grass fields when the PF DLC is on

[Drmattymd]

Are you confirming or asking for confirmation?

[DMZ Commander]

Are you confirming or asking for confirmation?

Asking

[soccerhate]

Sorry, doesn't answer your question, but you called it PF and grass, so here's a weird thing that's happened to my grass meadow on Erlengrat yesterday:

I had pH and Nitrogen on perfect on it, had a massive yield. It then required fertilization, which is all good - brought it back to perfect again (auto-application, no over-fertilization). pH was in good, so I left it there, and to my astonishment the second cut delivered 65%, uniformly across three different soil types. pH is still sitting on good afterwards, and - even more surprising - nitrogen remains in perfect post cut.

Again, I don't know, maybe that's how it's intended, but the yield uniformity throws me off a bit.

[jah6575]

Was the grass fully grown when the second cut made? It can be cut earlier for less yield. Approximately the numbers you were describing.

[soccerhate]

Was the grass fully grown when the second cut made? It can be cut earlier for less yield. Approximately the numbers you were describing.

Fully grown both cuts, yes. Doing the third cut later today, so keep you posted.

[ED209v2]

Sorry, doesn't answer your question, but you called it PF and grass, so here's a weird thing that's happened to my grass meadow on Erlengrat yesterday:

I had pH and Nitrogen on perfect on it, had a massive yield. It then required fertilization, which is all good - brought it back to perfect again (auto-application, no over-fertilization). pH was in good, so I left it there, and to my astonishment the second cut delivered 65%, uniformly across three different soil types. pH is still sitting on good afterwards, and - even more surprising - nitrogen remains in perfect post cut.

Again, I don't know, maybe that's how it's intended, but the yield uniformity throws me off a bit.

This just happened to me as well. Hollandscheveld map with seasons. 2nd cut in the same year.

A bug in PF?

[soccerhate]

Sorry, doesn't answer your question, but you called it PF and grass, so here's a weird thing that's happened to my grass meadow on Erlengrat yesterday:

I had pH and Nitrogen on perfect on it, had a massive yield. It then required fertilization, which is all good - brought it back to perfect again (auto-application, no over-fertilization). pH was in good, so I left it there, and to my astonishment the second cut delivered 65%, uniformly across three different soil types. pH is still sitting on good afterwards, and - even more surprising - nitrogen remains in perfect post cut.

Again, I don't know, maybe that's how it's intended, but the yield uniformity throws me off a bit.

This just happened to me as well. Hollandscheveld map with seasons. 2nd cut in the same year.

A bug in PF?

In all honesty, and I did voice it in the thread on the contract system and PF, the real issue is that PF changed the way you work your fields with crops, but the base game set of rules was not changed in the slightest, and so now we have conflicting instructions from soil masks and the base game core. Cross your fingers, hope for the best, wait for a fix...

[GrimGandalf]

Sorry, doesn't answer your question, but you called it PF and grass, so here's a weird thing that's happened to my grass meadow on Erlengrat yesterday:

I had pH and Nitrogen on perfect on it, had a massive yield. It then required fertilization, which is all good - brought it back to perfect again (auto-application, no over-fertilization). pH was in good, so I left it there, and to my astonishment the second cut delivered 65%, uniformly across three different soil types. pH is still sitting on good afterwards, and - even more surprising - nitrogen remains in perfect post cut.

Again, I don't know, maybe that's how it's intended, but the yield uniformity throws me off a bit.

This just happened to me as well. Hollandscheveld map with seasons. 2nd cut in the same year.

A bug in PF?

This has happened to me as well. All of the fields I own now do not loose nitrogen. I’ve uninstalled until the fix since it’s a game breaker. I can’t wait until they fix it though because until that point I was enjoying it.

[Illinois Farmer]

Grass shouldn't be using nitrogen. That's why farmers will use grass to rotate crops as well. Grim, it depends what you are planting. Have you tried corn?

[GrimGandalf]

Grass shouldn't be using nitrogen. That's why farmers will use grass to rotate crops as well. Grim, it depends what you are planting. Have you tried corn?

I haven’t yet. I Prepped the field before planting grass by blasting it to max nitrogen with manure. I planted grass and cut it. The nitrogen didn’t decrease. I let it grow and cut it again, and again the nitrogen didn’t decrease. I removed the grass and planted wheat, harvested it, and still the nitrogen didn’t decrease. I gave up after that. I did plant Soy on my other field and I’m betting that’s what messed it up. It seems Soy might be causing issues.

[Illinois Farmer]

Soybeans, wheat, grass, etc don't need nitrogen to grow. If you really want your nitrogen gone plant corn. Grass and Soybeans acutely sound be restoring nutrients to the ground.

[soccerhate]

Soybeans, wheat, grass, etc don't need nitrogen to grow. If you really want your nitrogen gone plant corn. Grass and Soybeans acutely sound be restoring nutrients to the ground.

That's what I am doing on my PF rotation test today, and with soy it's all pretty straightforward. However, the jury's still out on my meadows. Again, they did take and reduce Ni the first cut. So, I'll play around some more.

[Illinois Farmer]

Yeah it probably does use a little nitrogen. I don't grow straight grass expect in the yard haha. I was thinking of grass as alfalfa because that's what we grow.
"Nitrogen (N) fertilizer is generally not required for alfalfa production since alfalfa can obtain its own N from N-fixing nodules (Figure 1). Alfalfa fixes most (70-90%) of its N needs from the air through Rhizobium bacteria residing in alfalfa root nodules"

[soccerhate]

Okay, sad things to report: the two meadows are proper broken.

Even before I cut anything, the entire area of the meadow showed in the minimap yield screen as uniformly red (65%). As I was cutting it, literally nothing changed - it remained uniformly 65%, irrespective of the soil type. Post cut it is still stuck, showing nitrogen perfect and pH good.

So, there you go.