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Harada
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Oxygendavid

Post by Harada » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:07 am

Posted on FB by Oxygendavid

Dear Farming Simulator Community,
Many of you by now are aware of the recent issues regarding Chellington Valley and GIANTS Modhub.
I've been supporting the Modhub with my mod content since December 2016. Sadly, I've seen consistency of the testing decline to the point where simply asking for clarification of an issue results in zero communication.
As of this moment, there has been no communication or desire by the QA Modhub team to resolve anything. Despite myself and the Ambassadors reaching out to GIANTS.
The mod hub team haven't given me any reason at all as to what the issue is regarding permissions. I was made aware of one issue via other sources but have had no detail from them if this was the only reason Chellington was removed or if there are any other reasons for this.
I have spent 1000s of hours creating this map not to mention all the time and effort my testers have put in to testing this map only for it to be listed on rip off sites with badly edited versions instead of being resolved properly.
I've spent the last week giving careful thought of how to proceed. First and foremost, I want to enjoy modding, it has been an enjoyable hobby for me for many years.
However, dealing with the inconsistent testing methods of the Modhub has slowly eroded my enjoyment. I can no longer justify spending hundreds of hours making content, only for it to be failed and refused from uploading anymore.
I have spoken to many other modders who have also experienced the same inconsistencies and share my frustrations.
I am extremely upset and disappointed at the manner in which I have been spoken to given the loyalty I have shown over many years and the fact I worked closely with Giants to release there first mod map on console (chellington) and now in the space of 4 years, this personal communication has been lost to an attitude that now tells me I am wasting their time if things are not 100% perfect after one or two attempts considering the complexity of a map.
As they have now advised me to stop wasting their time, I feel it is no longer worth my time working with them
If I decide to create mods in the future, it will only be for the community as sadly I have lost respect and faith in the modhub Q&A team for the unprofessional manner in which they have dealt with this situation, this was something that could have been resolved quickly and easily with some simple communication
Therefore, as of now I will no longer be supporting the GIANTS Modhub with my content.
I would like to respectfully ask that you don’t join the Giants forum or discord to cause any trouble but if you have genuine concerns with them, please do that do it in a constructive manner.
I would like to thank all of the community who have supported me and appreciated my mod content, it means a lot. I would also like to apologise to the many console players who have supported me as I will not be able to make my content available for console use in the future
I have read everyone’s messages and am overwhelmed with the support you have given me
For now I am going to take some time to decide what to do next.
Regards
Oxygendavid
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by AndOnTheDrums » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:19 am

Hey bud -

Sad to read this. Whatever you decide to do next, you’ll have my support, even if I can’t use your content on console. Hopefully this all leads to something better between modders and GIANTS moving forward - we all benefit if it does.

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by DEERE317 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:51 am

Also should be noted for those reading that it’s a quotation of Oxy.
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by Illinois Farmer » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:25 am

Also has been posted here by bullet bill before. Threads just keep getting locked.
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by FarmBoss » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:43 am

Biting the hand that feeds you is not a good idea. Maybe record sales has gone to Giants head, and they forget they need the modders more than the modders need them.

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by DMZ Commander » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:57 am

Oh we're doing this again...
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by lawm » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:59 am

FarmBoss wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:43 am
Biting the hand that feeds you is not a good idea. Maybe record sales has gone to Giants head, and they forget they need the modders more than the modders need them.
I held out on FS19. It was hard when I took a peek every now and then at the mods, but 1 mod sold me on buying.....Lone Oak. Oxy converting the map with permission from Bill. I'm still playing that map since 17. Giants should be more forthcoming with some info if how Oxy is saying he has been treated is really "only his side" of story. Otherwise I'm taking his word and I'll find a new genee of game or just say hell with it and let the gaming to my kids. I dont need a new game. I'll just stop following the threads once new game drops and move on. There is plenty of time till next version but I have already resided myself to playing 19 till my ps4 dies

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by USAcummins » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:00 am

Waiting for the moderator to pop in and lock this lol....because it's not a "community" problem.....yet so much outrage by the community....

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by Mwal » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:18 am

Whether anyone likes it or not and you can say it over and over again but one way or another the community will make it their problem. Now whether that comes when someone spills the beans on what’s going on like this or when someone goes dark or if they simply just say I’m done modding with no explanation. That’s just the age we live in and different ways we have to voice our opinion. Best to just sit back and enjoy watching everyone fight with a 🍿

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by redglasses » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:48 am

^^this, this thing is exclusive to giants, look at other game’s communities. If the devs do something to harm popular people in the community the community generally has a problem with it. Idk why people are acting all surprised that the community is getting mad when it happens pretty much everyday in the gaming scene.
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by CowsGoMoo » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:07 am

oh wow, almost 5 hours old and still an unlocked post
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by Leicesterlichtie » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:11 am

I'll give it another couple of hours.

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by Bryan83 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:57 am

Here's a shot at being constructive...

Sometimes when I get a little frustrated about only having 4 gig of mod space on my xbox, I have to remind myself that 5 years ago I didn't even have that. FS15 had 3 or 4 bits of DLC and that was it. 3 years ago I was getting my feet wet in the modhub, and as I recall one of the recurring thoughts I had was while it was nice, there was still a lot of cool stuff that was PC only. Now here we are on FS19 and it seems that a large portion of mods released end up on all platforms. My point being that I recognize how far it has come and how much it has changed gameplay in such a short while and that I, for one, feel lucky to have what I have. Not because of any one particular modder, mind you, but rather because of the way it changed for the better. It saddens me to see the current state of affairs in the LS/FS community as a whole with all the strife in it today. It seems posts like these pop up now a few times a day, representing a community issue. My earnest hope is that Giants and the community at large will come together and open the dialog to resolve this. I'm sure it's just part of the "growing pains" of an ever evolving post of this game we're all enjoy, but with a little effort from all sides I believe we can get through this together.

I'll step off my soapbox now and hope that my words have rang true somewhere.
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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by gordon861 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:53 am

Perhaps this is the sort of thing that the Giant Community Coordinator should get involved with or at least have the decency to acknowledge there is a problem, instead all we get is silence from Giants and then a moderator locks the thread because it's a one sided conversation. The solution isn't to lock the thread the solution is to engage with the community.

I only came to FS about a year into the life cycle of FS17 and spent over 1000 hrs in game, it had problems but I just couldn't get enough. FS19 came out and I jumped at it but I'm feeling less and less keen on the game, the quality of the MOD checking has gone through the floor and the communications from Giants which seemed to improve after a bad start following the FS19 release has just got worse again.

I'm sorry Oxy is leaving but I feel he won't be the last one to go.

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Re: Oxygendavid

Post by eric21 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:56 am

The reason it kept getting locked because there wasnt constructive criticism, just bashing by certain members who do one hit posts and don't listen to David.
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