help seed or roll 1st

[Lankspeed]

Hello everyone,
Can somebody explain this.
Under Growth map option it gives SEEDBED but seedbed only gets highlighted when you roll a cultivated field.
But the tutorials state you seed then use the roller.

So Question is Roller after Cultivation.
Or Roller after Seeding.

To get Max yeild.

Thanks for any advice.

[PrincessJessi84]

I go based on what I read about real farmers rolling.. I seed then roll.. the game seems to respond properly to it and it seems to be what other folks on here are doing as well.. I hope its right or I have been wasting a TON of time

[ace54858]

I go based on what I read about real farmers rolling.. I seed then roll.. the game seems to respond properly to it and it seems to be what other folks on here are doing as well.. I hope its right or I have been wasting a TON of time

that's how i've been doing it as well as i do belive it makes a seed bed from what i have heard.

[vbost]

i had a weird discovery yesterday. i've had the seedbed status wtihout rolling. these where the steps i took:
1) harvest previous canola
2) fertilise with fertilisespreader
3) cultivate with disc harrow
4) fertilise with fertilisespreader

after those 4 steps it gave the indication "seedbed".

it is not logic that you would roll before seeding as the point of rolling is to give more density to the soil to have a better soil to seeds contact.

hope this helps

[Lankspeed]

I go based on what I read about real farmers rolling.. I seed then roll.. the game seems to respond properly to it and it seems to be what other folks on here are doing as well.. I hope its right or I have been wasting a TON of time

So that is what I do, in fact it is what the tutorial says.
Thanks.

[norfolk farmer]

I use a disc or shallow cultivator to get the seedbed, then drill and roll after that as that is more how I am used to it being done.

[Mwal]

A seed bed is what you are looking to plant into irl, it’s not the necessarily the reason you roll crops though I know some folks do roll before planting. The only thing we ever rolled was alfalfa when we use to plant it, and soybeans. It is supposed to help germination but the main reason we do it is to smash in rocks and dirt clumps (specifically root balls from corn) to keep the field nice and flat for harvesting. With soybeans you run the head very close to the ground (especially if it was a not so great growing year) so you don’t want to be picking that trash up. I can also confirm we roll immediately following planting and the roller is in the field before I’m finished planting. I can also confirm people roll when Soys are three to four inches tall. It all depends heavily on your soil type and what you are trying to achieve but I do believe the game is going for the post plant rolling.

[deerefarm]

We used to plow in the fall, disk in the spring, then plant then roll the seedbed to make it nice and flat. I did try rolling before and after planting, and only after planting in the game but as it only yields a 5% bonus it's hard to say if that's a real bonus or just a margin or error.

[fenixguy]

Okay I may have missed it, but what is the benefit of "seedbed" (in-game, not IRL)? I disc before planting/seeding if I don't need to plow so I don't bring up any rocks. This gives you stubble cultivation. The planters/seed drills can plant into stubble cultivation. I can also get "seedbed" from discing after plowing.

The last time I planted I did this. Harvest>mulch>fert>disc>plant. I just wanted to try out a mulcher. IRL, a discing stubble is "mulching" but the game has other ideas.

Is there an added benefit to "seedbed" or is it just another soil state for the heck of it?

Edit: For that matter, is there an added benefit from stubble cultivation? Is it just for role-play?

[Drmattymd]

Mulching and seed bed are supposed to add 5% yield bonus each I believe

[crash]

I think stubble cultivation is for the sake of giving a "no rocks" option, with a high speed tillage tool.. (that isent high speed at all btw)

[fenixguy]

Just had a look at the tutorial. It says to roll after seeding for the 5% yield bonus.

Seeding and planting are coming soon. Hopefully that will give some insight as to what "seedbed" actually adds.

[Mwal]

Just had a look at the tutorial. It says to roll after seeding for the 5% yield bonus.

Seeding and planting are coming soon. Hopefully that will give some insight as to what "seedbed" actually adds.

It just means your planting into a nice even surface which in term means good seed coverage and even planting which means even coverage, germination, and sprouting. That prevents exposed seeds not germinating due to rotting from surface moisture, not getting substantial moisture to germinate from laying on the surfaces just below it, or never sprouting before rotting from being to planted to deep. Not to mention a host of other fungal issues from exposed roots. A 5% bonus for proper field prep is extremely generous and it should be more like a large loss if you don’t. That’s what the five percent is giants simulating planting more realistically

[fenixguy]

It just means your planting into a nice even surface which in term means good seed coverage and even planting which means even coverage, germination, and sprouting. That prevents exposed seeds not germinating due to rotting from surface moisture, not getting substantial moisture to germinate from laying on the surfaces just below it, or never sprouting before rotting from being to planted to deep. Not to mention a host of other fungal issues from exposed roots. A 5% bonus for proper field prep is extremely generous and it should be more like a large loss if you don’t. That’s what the five percent is giants simulating planting more realistically

Right, but none of that is simulated in-game. I haven't seen anything yet that says seedbed gives a 5% bonus. Mulching and rolling give 5% each, but "seedbed" can bed achieved without doing either of those things.

There's an upcoming tutorial on it that hopefully will explain it a little better.

[Coldlandlord]

You can do both. Before drilling gives you a nice powdery seed bed, after helps bury the seed and aids germination, both helps bury stones. If you want to be realistic, if rolling after, go at a slightly different angle to the drill.