Maybe us American players (especially console players)...

[ScotsDude73]

Goham has gotten spoiled and lazy with his videos over past 2 years. Modders make the game playable over the long run. Youtubers sell the game.

To me there are certain YouTubers that promote the modders work which allows players to see what is coming to the game in advance. At the end of the day its the modders that makes the game what it is. Without the modding community this game would not have sold as well as it has over the years. Perks of being a well known YouTuber are early access to modded maps and mods as well as free dlc and probably even a free copy of the game to promote it on livestreams before release.

[Dale Kieser]

What is it with american players creating non stop whinings threads on the forum?
Is this an american thing? No disrespect intended.

What is it with German players popping in to the English forums just to disrespect American players by calling them whiners, and then saying no disrespect intended?

Well said !!!
BTW .... im a Canadian player.
IMO .... too many European maps. Give us some large wide open square fields once in awhile. Like we have here. Thats not a whine. Its called asking for a farming situation like we have in our Country. Love the game, but i will wait patiently for the large square fields. Like Welkers.

[this_is_gav]

And yes I agree!! Calling yourself an Ambassador is self proclamation!! He is partner. The Kerminator is Giants Ambassador for United States.

DJ is an ambassador. There are dozens of ambassadors, at least one in the most popular countries where the game is sold. DJ is one of six ambassadors in the USA at the time of this post: Meet our new Community Ambassadors! (We're still looking!), though there are likely changes and/or additions since.

Ambassadors aren't GIANTS staff, though they get a few perks in merchandise and, in FS22's case, early access. Kermit is GIANTS staff - one of two Community Coordinators (along with Chris/Chaki) and with Lars as the Community Manager.

I thought it was a shocking idea at first, just a glorified "influencer" (a term I hate and barely acknowledge, and I lose a little more respect for whoever uses it) with no real value, however at least one of them was very proactive in the build up to FS22's release in taking feedback and ensuring that GIANTS were aware of our opinions, which is one of the reasons GIANTS made significant changes to the game (particularly lighting and colour palette) in the lead up to release - something they deservedly got a lot of credit for, as I think a lot of us had lost hope and expected more of a FS19.5, as it initially appeared.

As far as I know a GIANTS Partner is what was known as the unmentionable above - essentially streamers and content producers who hype the product (and are thus rarely provide balanced arguments, sometimes to the point of ignorant to or blindly attacking negativity).

[Arnie]

I don't understand exactly what an ambassador is supposed to do.
"designed to strengthen the link between our community and us at GIANTS Software".
How do they do that, and are there any examples of that strengthened link?

[this_is_gav]

I don't understand exactly what an ambassador is supposed to do.
"designed to strengthen the link between our community and us at GIANTS Software".
How do they do that, and are there any examples of that strengthened link?

I've pointed one example out. They were the very definition of strengthening a link, as it allowed us players to give near direct feedback to the developers who reacted accordingly.

I can't speak for many other ambassadors, as a lot of them seem to confuse their role for blind loyalty, in which case such feedback is much less likely to reach GIANTS. Those are instances are pretty useless as ambassadors and more in line with what I anticipated the programme to be before its true value became clear in those who use it appropriately.

[Arnie]

I don't understand exactly what an ambassador is supposed to do.
"designed to strengthen the link between our community and us at GIANTS Software".
How do they do that, and are there any examples of that strengthened link?

I've pointed one example out. They were the very definition of strengthening a link, as it allowed us players to give near direct feedback to the developers who reacted accordingly.

I can't speak for many other ambassadors, as a lot of them seem to confuse their role for blind loyalty, in which case such feedback is much less likely to reach GIANTS. Those are instances are pretty useless as ambassadors and more in line with what I anticipated the programme to be before its true value became clear in those who use it appropriately.

Ok I read your earlier post again and caught what you said, thanks.

[lawm]

So basically it's like politics lol.put in some work, get name recognition and make it, then take it easy , tow the line, and say what you need to retain subscribers

[blue_painted]

What is it with american players creating non stop whinings threads on the forum?
Is this an american thing? No disrespect intended.

What is it with German players popping in to the English forums just to disrespect American players by calling them whiners, and then saying no disrespect intended?

Well said !!!
BTW .... im a Canadian player.
IMO .... too many European maps. Give us some large wide open square fields once in awhile. Like we have here. Thats not a whine. Its called asking for a farming situation like we have in our Country. Love the game, but i will wait patiently for the large square fields. Like Welkers.

I can't agree with that: maybe "not enough North American big-field maps" but not "too many European maps" ... there's only three UK/Eire maps on modhub ... more and more and more maps!

(Yes, I know how much work goes into map making, I've tried and failed so many times)

[eric21]

So basically it's like politics lol.put in some work, get name recognition and make it, then take it easy , tow the line, and say what you need to retain subscribers

Not quite, companies use fan forums or support groups for the community via a 3rd party or sub branch group for feedback. Comments and suggestions get talked about and put forward to the company. It's a better way to have one person say something with lots of recommendations that are important rather than 100,000 people emailing you a week

[lawm]

So basically it's like politics lol.put in some work, get name recognition and make it, then take it easy , tow the line, and say what you need to retain subscribers

Not quite, companies use fan forums or support groups for the community via a 3rd party or sub branch group for feedback. Comments and suggestions get talked about and put forward to the company. It's a better way to have one person say something with lots of recommendations that are important rather than 100,000 people emailing you a week

I understand all that but I guess the thing that I am mocking is we are here we're here trying to voice this information free of charge on a daily basis on this website. Go on his YouTube channel and read the comments from viewers it's the same stuff as on here basically mixed in with a bunch of fan dribble trying to get shoutouts from DJ.

[raran]

I don't even watch youtubers who put their ugly mugs in the corner of the screen anymore. Once they start doing that it's mostly about them and not about the game.

[lawm]

I unsubscribed last night I realized I haven't watched him in forever , he doesn't play the vehicle sounds on new vehicles or tractors and he doesn't show the tire options a lot of times. He just says has tire options. It got so half done I went to sealyp if I wanna see a mod before downloading.

[Rasping rabbit]

I don't even watch youtubers who put their ugly mugs in the corner of the screen anymore. Once they start doing that it's mostly about them and not about the game.

I thought I was the only one that used this logic. The last that survived this decision was Cole the Cornstar as I originally found him entertaining, then his channel turned into more of a ‘look how much money I’m spending’ channel so he ended up going with the rest.

[lawm]

I don't even watch youtubers who put their ugly mugs in the corner of the screen anymore. Once they start doing that it's mostly about them and not about the game.

I thought I was the only one that used this logic. The last that survived this decision was Cole the Cornstar as I originally found him entertaining, then his channel turned into more of a ‘look how much money I’m spending’ channel so he ended up going with the rest.

They are good ppl but I agree it's like hes getting *censored* in to luring in more ppl with gimmicks. Like how long does someone have to view to have it count as viewership? If it's only just needing someone to start the video that explains the whole pictures and captions to *censored* ppl in and now your channels become click bait

[SimulatedFarmer]

What does the above conversation have with a discussion about the proportional numbers of US to Euro maps? “Take it outside, boys,” said the sheriff. The discussion is interesting. Unfortunately, the “wrong” group is seeing it.