Game Crashing/Freezing on Initial Loading screen with New Thrustmaster Wheel and Pedals connected

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Game Crashing/Freezing on Initial Loading screen with New Thrustmaster Wheel and Pedals connected

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Tried launching Farm Sim 19 today to play for the first time since getting my new Thrustmaster T-GT Wheel and T-LCM Pedals Last Week. The initial loading window appears but then the game completely freezes and in task manager is showing as not responding. It stays like that until I run TaskKill on my PC. I can't even get the intro movies or to the main menu. However as soon as I unplug both my new wheel and the new pedals from the PC, Farm Sim will load up and run perfectly fine.

Now when I got the wheel last week, first thing I did when connecting it to the PC was update all the drivers and firmware via the program that came with it. The Pedals don't require any driver and windows 10 tells me non are present. Wheel and Pedals both work fine in all my other games.

So what is causing Farm Sim to not want to load and run correctly when both devices are plugged into my PC?
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Re: Game Crashing/Freezing on Initial Loading screen with New Thrustmaster Wheel and Pedals connected

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Maybe move the keybindings.xml in FS and let it create a new one? Worth a shot.
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Re: Game Crashing/Freezing on Initial Loading screen with New Thrustmaster Wheel and Pedals connected

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Wow a simple answer and yes that solved the problem. Can't believe I didn't try that one first myself. Though I assumed maybe that the game was smart enough to just update and overwrite the exisiting keybinds.xml for the new wheel. Guess it wasn't. Now I just need to see before I go re-binding all the keys for my controller and the wheel if I'm going to have the issue pop up again when I change the pedals from being connected directly to the PC to instead being connected to and working through the wheel base.
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Okay so now it seems like this issue returns everytime I've played the game. When I come to load the game up I get the Crashing/Freezing problem. I delete the input bindings xml and launch the game and it works. I load up a save and have to spend 30 minutes rebinding and mapping my game controller and steering wheel and pedals. I save the bindings, play the game for a few hours, save and exit. Next time I come to launch and it Grashes and Freezes, have to delete the bindings etc etc etc A Vicious Circle that I'm now stuck in and don't know how to fix permanently.
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I've not had the issue you've got but from time to time when the game is slower loading I remove the keybindings xml a put in one I have saved on my desktop with all my bindings set without the duplicates that occur.Maybe you could do the same if you can create one before a crash,until hopefully you get to the bottom of the issue.
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Up until this issue started a few weeks ago, I had my keybindings.xml set how I wanted it with my controller and my old Logitech wheel, I even went so far as to make the file read-only so the game or mods couldn't mess with it anymore. However there is no way for me to do this at the minute, as I have to delete the bindings file completely before I launch the game, otherwise it won't launch. I do have a copy of my old bindings.xml on another drive for safe keeping, but sadly copying that into the save folder doesn't allow the game to launch.
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Okay so I've made a discovery today in testing everything that could be causing my issue, and it's not seemingly a wheel or controller issue at all. I've made a little video showing the problem, now can anyone suggest how we fix this issue?

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Re: Game Crashing/Freezing on Initial Loading screen with New Thrustmaster Wheel and Pedals connected

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This is a fascinating issue. Out of interest:
1. Have you tried it with a different browser open, like Edge, or Firefox?
2. What does the log file say when you have Chrome open

Some observations:
1. Chrome is trash hence why I got rid of it on all my machines. Somehow just sitting on a blank page it manages to eat CPU in Windows and the autoupdater daemon on MacOS causes a lot of performance issues
2. Chrome updates on a regular basis and FS does not. So, logically speaking, the issue must be Chrome, even though it's still super strange that one would impact the other.
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1. Just tried that and it doesn't open for me with Edge running either or Firefox or Opera. So it seems like for some weird reason on my PC Farming Simulator will not launch if any web browser is running. I now wonder if this might also stem from a Windows Update that happened a couple of weeks ago roughly at the same time this problem started.

2.
GIANTS Engine Runtime 8.0.0 (22969) 64bit Steam (Build Date: Oct 28 2020)
Copyright (c) 2008-2019, GIANTS Software GmbH (giants-software.com), All Rights Reserved.
Copyright (c) 2003-2019, Christian Ammann and Stefan Geiger, All Rights Reserved.
Application: FarmingSimulator2019
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CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz
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Mouse enabled
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XINPUT_GAMEPAD
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Number of Buttons: 14
Thrustmaster B684 (VID: 044F PID: B684 VER: 0900 Cat: WHEEL)
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SSAO Quality: 15
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Cloud Quality: 4
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Setting 'Radio Vehicle Only': false
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Setting 'Easy Arm Control': false
Setting 'Show Trigger Marker': true
Setting 'Show Field-Info': true
Setting 'Invert Y-Look': false
Setting 'Show Help Icons': true
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Setting 'Vehicle Volume': 0.5
Setting 'Environment Volume': 0.5
Setting 'GUI Volume': 0.10000000149012
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Setting 'Music Volume': 0.5
Farming Simulator 19 (Steam)
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Available Languages: en de jp pl cz fr es ru it pt hu nl cs ct br tr ro kr
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Time: 2021-05-11 15:36:47
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dataS2/character/humans/pedestrians/pedestrianAnimation.i3d (23.50 ms)
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which is what I've been getting, so it is trying to load the game, but then just stops when the game freezes/crashes and appears in task manager as not responding. So it's not giving any errors or any indication as to what it's not liking and why it won't launch correctly. Because I have to forcekill the game as I can't interact within any windows or the task manager panel when the game has crashed using a taskkill.exe I made myself I launch from the taskbar, the log obviously never adds the "Application Quit" line when it gets closed down correctly.
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This is truly a weird thing, but I have noticed that when I had Forza Horizon 4 frozen and alt tabbed out of it last week I could not click on the start menu or the task launcher to kill FH4 - similar problem to what you were showing in the video.
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Does it also hang if you launch FS from the desktop shortcut rather than in Steam? Have Steam closed.
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Yes it does. It also hangs if I try launching from my Mod Folder Manager Program. It's also impossible to play the Steam Version of the game with Steam Closed, any attempt to do so causes the computer to try and launch steam, and then after steam has opened then it continues and launches Farm Sim. I should also point out that Steam also won't actually open on my PC now if a browser of any kind is open. So whatever is going on even prevents Steam being launched and opened if a browser window is open first. Close the browser and Steam will then appear and load. Very annoying, because if I've pressed the icon a couple of times, and then realised I have a browser open, when I close the browser I then get multiple versions of steam or the game open.
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Steam itself is in effect a glorified browser making use of Chrome and IE components from what I have read.

Are you experiencing this issue with any other games?
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Yes lots of games and some other windows applications too.
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You earlier posts eluded to this to being a FS issue when it would appear it is not and is a victim of said issue.

When I launch FS a brief Steam validation window appears and disappears, the main Steam application does not open.

Not sure what else to suggest to be honest other than a reinstall of Steam over the top though I did see something about refreshing game cache files. Maybe worth a google.
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