Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

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janek7680
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Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

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- PC/Mac/PS4/XB1:
PC - DVD version - patch 1.2 beta
- Vehicle/Tool/Model/Object:
Game options
- Issue:
I want to set the control of each vehicle only with the mouse.

In settings, I've shifted everything in the control options and everything works. However, when I stop moving the mouse to the side, the wheels will go back in the straight line, even though I set the speed of the return of the wheels to 0% (basically it does not react at all). If I drive with the keyboard (keys "A" "D") the steering responds normally and the return of the wheels as well. If I drive with the mouse there is a problem with returning wheels to the starting points. I would love if the mouse could be driven like a driving-wheel or a joystick.
In version FS17 there was a mod "mouse steering" which perfectly replaced the steering wheel and it worked perfectly.
- Single- or Multiplayer:
single
- Steps to reproduce:
??
- Does it happen on a standard map without mods yes/no:
Standard map, without any mods - Standard map with mods- it does not matter, the problem remains!

log:
GIANTS Engine Runtime 8.0.0 (17974) 64bit (Build Date: Dec 6 2018)
Copyright (c) 2008-2018, GIANTS Software GmbH (giants-software.com), All Rights Reserved.
Copyright (c) 2003-2018, Christian Ammann and Stefan Geiger, All Rights Reserved.
Application: FarmingSimulator2019
Main System
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz
Memory: 4079 MB
OS: Windows NT 6.1 64-bit
Physics System
Version: 5.9.5
Thread(s): 2
Input System
Keyboard enabled
Mouse enabled
Gamepad/Joystick enabled
Force Feedback disabled
Audio System
Driver: SoftMixer WASAPI Stereo
Version: 2018.11
Frequency: 44100
Max. active sources: 256
Render System
Driver: Direct 3D 11
Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 430
Version: 23.21.13.9101 (23.2.2018)
Revision: 161
Feature level: DirectX 11
Windowed Mode : off
V-Sync : on
Effective Window Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Started 2 threads for threadpool 'Render threadpool'
Hardware Profile
Level: Custom Low
View Distance Factor: 1.000000
Shadow Quality: 2.000000 Base-Size: 2048 Filter-Size: 4 Shadow Focus Box false
Shader Quality: 2
Skip Mipmaps: 0
LOD Distance Factor: 1.000000
Terrain LOD Distance Factor: 1.000000
Terrain Normal Mapping: Yes
Foliage View Distance Factor: 1.000000
Volume Mesh Tessellation Factor: 1.500000
Tyre Tracks Segments Factor: 0.500000
Max. Number of Shadow Lights: 1
Max. Number of Lights: 512
Max. Number of Lights Per Cluster: 32
MSAA: 0
Bloom Quality: 0
SSAO Quality: 0
DOF: Disabled
Cloud Quality: 1
Setting 'Master Volume': 0.30000001192093
Setting 'Is Train Tabbable': true
Setting 'Radio Vehicle Only': false
Setting 'Radio Active': true
Setting 'Use Colorblind Mode': false
Setting 'Easy Arm Control': false
Setting 'Show Trigger Marker': true
Setting 'Show Field-Info': true
Setting 'Invert Y-Look': false
Setting 'Show Help Icons': true
Setting 'Radio Volume': 0.5
Setting 'Vehicle Volume': 0.10000000149012
Setting 'Environment Volume': 0
Setting 'GUI Volume': 0
Setting 'Master Volume': 0.30000001192093
Setting 'Music Volume': 0.10000000149012
Farming Simulator 19
Version: 1.2.0.0 b3218
Available Languages: pl cz
Language: cz
Time: 2019-01-12 09:57:59
dataS2/character/humans/characterAnimation.i3d (225.19 ms)
dataS2/character/humans/pedestrians/pedestrianAnimation.i3d (109.90 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 Loaded specializations
2019-01-12 09:58 Loaded vehicle types
2019-01-12 09:58 Loaded placeable types
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'baseColor'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'design'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'designColor'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'vehicleType'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'RIDGEMARKER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'attacherJoint'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'WEEDER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'PLOW'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'DEFAULT'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'AUXILIARY'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'motor'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'frontloader'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'FORAGEWAGON'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'baseMaterial'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'designMaterial'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'wrappingColor'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'powerTakeOff'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'trailer'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'COMBINECHOPPER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'COMBINESWATH'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'FRUITPREPARER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'BALER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'tensionBelts'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'MOWER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'CULTIVATOR'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'SPRAYER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'wheel'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'rimColor'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'pipe'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'SOWINGMACHINE'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'CUTTER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'WINDROWER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'inputAttacherJoint'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'TEDDER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register workAreaType 'ROLLER'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'cover'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'folding'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'fillUnit'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'buyableBaleAmount'
2019-01-12 09:58 Register configuration 'fillVolume'
2019-01-12 09:58 Error: Failed to request recommended mods, HTTP error code 0
2019-01-12 09:58 data/shared/connectionHoses/hoses.i3d (464.09 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/shared/connectionHoses/connectors.i3d (240.36 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/shared/connectionHoses/hoseMaterialHolder.i3d (180.87 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/sky/sky.i3d (44.89 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/sky/rain.i3d (40.83 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 Error: Failed to request recommended mods, HTTP error code 0
2019-01-12 09:58 data/maps/mapDE.i3d (23055.81 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/wheat.i3d (223.98 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/grassDense.i3d (77.09 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/canola.i3d (151.13 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/barley.i3d (116.42 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/maize.i3d (227.93 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/decoFoliage.i3d (738.51 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/potato.i3d (162.10 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/potatoHaulm.i3d (44.93 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/sugarbeet.i3d (91.63 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/sugarbeetHaulm.i3d (33.28 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/sunflower.i3d (230.30 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/soybean.i3d (121.54 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/oilseedRadish.i3d (64.74 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/poplar.i3d (180.80 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/bush01.i3d (390.41 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 Info: transform group 'bush01' has elements very far out from the cell edge (29.61% expansion)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/oat.i3d (152.48 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/sugarCane.i3d (217.49 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/sugarCaneHaulm.i3d (31.99 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/cotton.i3d (176.04 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 data/foliage/weed.i3d (44.51 ms)
2019-01-12 09:58 Disabled withering
2019-01-12 09:59 Error: Failed to request recommended mods, HTTP error code 0
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/newHolland/TX32Header/TX32Header.i3d (688.83 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/store/ui/shop.i3d (654.21 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/materialHolders/glowEffectMaterialHolder.i3d (0.73 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/store/ui/cube.i3d (21.26 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/store/ui/sphere.i3d (24.90 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/powerTakeOffs/walterscheidW.i3d (156.39 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/newHolland/TX32/TX32.i3d (2024.10 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/hubs/hubs.i3d (728.84 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/particleSystems/shared/wheelEmitterShape.i3d (9.27 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/trelleborg/TM2000/R32_TM2000.i3d (162.00 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/rims/rim001.i3d (76.53 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/trelleborg/TM700/R24_TM700.i3d (181.23 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/particleSystems/shared/exhaust.i3d (37.93 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/rear2ChamberLight_05.i3d (58.96 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/workingLightSquare_03.i3d (72.39 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/workingLightCircle_02.i3d (14.53 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/reflectors/lizard/yellowRound_03.i3d (50.52 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/reflectors/lizard/redRound_01.i3d (2.70 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/beaconLights/lizard/beaconLight06.i3d (82.11 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/rau/polymag300/polymag300.i3d (266.97 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/fendt/favorit500/favorit500.i3d (1762.93 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/trelleborg/TM700/R28_TM700.i3d (52.01 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/trelleborg/TM700/R38_TM700.i3d (39.05 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/beaconLights/lizard/beaconLight02.i3d (13.29 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/upperLinks/walterscheid03.i3d (90.24 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/toolbar.i3d (42.64 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/upperLinks/walterscheid01.i3d (41.90 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/agco/weight650/weight650.i3d (238.27 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/amazone/D8_30/D8_30.i3d (327.08 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/hubs/hubSmall01.i3d (28.72 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/lizard/implement/R15.i3d (86.57 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/rear2ChamberLight_04.i3d (344.79 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/rearLightCircleRed_01.i3d (66.29 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/frontLightRectangle_01.i3d (110.95 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/fiat/fiat1300dt/fiat1300dt.i3d (1226.34 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/trelleborg/TM600/R28_TM600.i3d (184.40 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/rims/rim004.i3d (145.83 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/rims/rim003.i3d (74.70 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/fortschritt/hw80/hw80.i3d (486.11 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/wheels/lizard/implement/R22_5_DS.i3d (78.16 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/wheelChocks/wheelChock01.i3d (46.24 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/lights/lizard/rear3ChamberLight_01.i3d (70.54 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/reflectors/lizard/redTriangle_01.i3d (23.65 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/shared/assets/reflectors/lizard/yellowRectangle_01.i3d (17.23 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/sellingStationGeneric/sellingStationGeneric.i3d (64.58 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/trainStationMill/trainStationMill.i3d (52.28 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/grainElevatorEast/grainElevatorEast.i3d (28.04 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/railroadSilo01/railroadSilo01.i3d (26.60 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/railroadSilo02/railroadSilo02.i3d (21.13 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/sellingStationBales/sellingStationBales.i3d (16.63 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/sellingStationWood/sellingStationWood.i3d (31.73 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/sellingStationWoodChips/sellingStationWoodChips.i3d (30.83 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/sellingStationWool/sellingStationWool.i3d (16.21 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/sellingStationVehicles/sellingStationVehicles.i3d (15.81 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/gasStation/gasStation.i3d (10.65 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/trainSystem/trainSystem.i3d (76.22 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/bga/bga.i3d (94.58 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/waterFillTriggers/waterFillTriggers.i3d (23.52 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/limeStation/limeStation.i3d (208.50 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/farmSilos/farmSiloLarge.i3d (817.96 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/farmBuildings/farmBarn.i3d (1072.60 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/farmBuildings/farmStorageBarn.i3d (844.69 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/placeables/mapDE/farmBuildings/farmHousePreplaced.i3d (563.11 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/train/locomotive01/locomotive01.i3d (719.30 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/train/wagonGrain/wagonGrain.i3d (695.91 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/train/wagonSugarbeets/wagonSugarbeets.i3d (89.00 ms)
2019-01-12 09:59 data/vehicles/train/wagonWoodChips/wagonWoodChips.i3d (53.75 ms)
2019-01-12 14:00 dataS2/character/humans/player/player02.i3d (2172.40 ms)
2019-01-12 14:00 Setting 'Radio Volume': 0.5
2019-01-12 14:00 Setting 'Vehicle Volume': 0.10000000149012
2019-01-12 14:00 Setting 'Environment Volume': 0
2019-01-12 14:00 Setting 'GUI Volume': 0
2019-01-12 14:00 Info: Savegame Setting 'dirtInterval': 3
2019-01-12 14:00 Info: Savegame Setting 'plantGrowthRate': 4
2019-01-12 14:00 Info: Savegame Setting 'fuelUsageLow': true
2019-01-12 14:00 Info: Savegame Setting 'plowingRequiredEnabled': false
2019-01-12 14:00 Info: Savegame Setting 'weedsEnabled': true
2019-01-12 14:00 Info: Savegame Setting 'limeRequired': true
2019-01-12 14:01 dataS2/character/crow/crow.i3d (145.73 ms)
2019-01-12 14:04 Game saved successfully.
2019-01-12 14:04 Application quit
2019-01-12 14:04 Error: Failed to request recommended mods, HTTP error code 0
2019-01-12 14:04 Error: Failed to request recommended mods, HTTP error code 0
2019-01-12 14:04 Error: Failed to request recommended mods, HTTP error code 0
Please correct this bug, which spoils me otherwise great game experience.
Thanks
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Loz_636
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Joined: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:41 am
Location: UK, Surrey

Re: Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

Post by Loz_636 »

Why don't you get a wheel?

So what you are hoping for here is that when you stop moving the mouse, you want the wheels to stop where they are - as in not straight at the angle you left them?

I'm not sure that is how it works, the game needs an axis to determine the position of something..

Like you say I think the best thing here would be to sit tight and wait for a mod to come out, I wouldn't say this is a bug..
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janek7680
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Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:58 am

Re: Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

Post by janek7680 »

I do not have a wheel because I do not want it! I used a joystick and the control is not good and there is another extra component... I just do not want.
You're not sure it can work as I'm describing ...
Interestingly, a person who has absolutely nothing to do with Giants Software can do this as a mod (for FS17) and Giants Software does not know it? And with the steering wheel, the joystick and the keyboard it works and with the mouse not? That's a little weird, do not you think?

And by the way, it works, the wheels control the mouse, turn around, just return immediately to the straight line if you stop moving the mouse. It's like picking up a loader (which is also controlled by a mouse) and at the moment when you stop moving the mouse, the loader returns to the ground...
this is not normal...
it's easy to understand???
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Loz_636
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Re: Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

Post by Loz_636 »

I'm certain Giants would know how to implement this if they intended it to work like that. I imagine there is a return to centre value for the steering in the coding somewhere which would just need removing when the mouse input stops.
Steering wheels and joysticks work like an analogue input on an axis which is why they work differently to a mouse.

Bottom line here is be patient if a mod came out for FS17 (keyboard steering mod) then I'm sure someone will make one for FS19...There is a lot going on at the moment as this game is still very new. :-)
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janek7680
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Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:58 am

Re: Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

Post by janek7680 »

no hope.... patch 1.3 beta not fix this problem... please Give me my money back
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SteelRodent
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Re: Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

Post by SteelRodent »

When you do mouse steer the wheels will point in whatever direction you moved the mouse from its starting position, which means you have to move the mouse back to straighten the wheels up. This is how steering normally works with anything that isn't a digital input like a keyboard. Since the game isn't designed for mouse steer, and mouse steer in general is not recommended (it's really bad for your wrist) or any good because it's super inaccurate, I doubt you can expect it to work any other way.
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janek7680
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Re: Steering any vehicle only with the mouse is not working.

Post by janek7680 »

SteelRodent wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:33 am When you do mouse steer the wheels will point in whatever direction you moved the mouse from its starting position, which means you have to move the mouse back to straighten the wheels up. This is how steering normally works with anything that isn't a digital input like a keyboard. Since the game isn't designed for mouse steer, and mouse steer in general is not recommended (it's really bad for your wrist) or any good because it's super inaccurate, I doubt you can expect it to work any other way.
Try it first, let's know what you're talking about, ok?? If I wreck my wrists it is purely my thing. In FS17 with mod "Mouse steering" it worked perfectly without errors but in 19 NO! How it makes sense to change any control in the setting when the game does not work well then?
And what you describe at the beginning of your contribution is not true because the wheels will return to the starting position even when the mouse remains at rest.
Mouse control is absolutely free of error in the game Euro Truck simulator 2 and I suspect the Giants have inspired and some elements are very similar but with errors!
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