Re: Stop using John Deere- I Did...
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:13 pm
here is my 8n
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neighbor had a Deere 955(?) and that poor thing... It was subject to all kinds of abuse (her husband was kind of how can I put this a.. Klutz/drunk) but it never had a grill (for as long as I recall) it just wouldn't stay in and apparently the first grill fell out while they were plowing... it got smashed pretty badFarmercaseih wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:32 am This tractor is only 40 years old and it is falling apart
I guess I'm with you here. I'm not a farmer. I run equipment and drive truck for a living, but I see the same side of things in my line of work. The electronics in this new stuff are a pain. Sometimes, you hate it. I personally would still probably prefer the older, used stuff. That said, the electronics and the emissions stuff isn't going anywhere. It's here to stay, and over time, keeping the older stuff running is going to become harder and harder. We're going to have to figure out how to work with it.DEERE317 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:46 pm Same for our tractor, no ECU’s in sight.
2025R first Gens are dead simple, simpler than the my 317.
An repair skills will follow the technology levels.
Old stuff also doesn’t fair as perfect as you make it sound like, our 8N came with an extension cord for the wiring harness, all of our old machines have wiring problems, etc. and that’s on top of unknown mechanical problems. So yes I expect it to be in a similar state to old machines of similar quality it 70years. It and most other CUT machines also have the benefit of not being full time Ag machines like 8N’s were.
Most machines since the 70's do, just some unintelligent members of our species like to disable seat, PTO, and neutral switches and remove ROPS. Other than a few niche scenarios I have no idea why.
only time i've heard of those items being deleted are low buildings and on our Toro lawn tractor (the electric ignition failed and you cant pull start it with the safety switch activated) Did you know early 9ns didn't have the neutral safety? Legend has it that a worker at the factory started one up in gear (No was hurt thankfully) as a result Henry Ford swore that this would never happen to one of his customers so as a result all tractors after a certain year came with a neutral safety.
This is kinda what I’m saying though those old fords, cases, and Deere’s were so stupidly simple and standard lots of parts were interchangeable with vehicles, you can get most anything you need at Napa, the newer stuff is going to price you out, it just won’t be cost effective to hang on to a newer tractor forever parts will get way to expensive. I’m not saying the new stuff isn’t nice, it’s way more efficient especially in construction equipment, you get way more power out of the same package or a smaller package than 20 years ago and I would much prefer to run it. I’m just saying we have really old stuff or new stuff that has a much shorter trade cycle mostly due to expenses but the old stuff endures because of the simplicity of the design.Deadeye wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:42 pm
I guess I'm with you here. I'm not a farmer. I run equipment and drive truck for a living, but I see the same side of things in my line of work. The electronics in this new stuff are a pain. Sometimes, you hate it. I personally would still probably prefer the older, used stuff. That said, the electronics and the emissions stuff isn't going anywhere. It's here to stay, and over time, keeping the older stuff running is going to become harder and harder. We're going to have to figure out how to work with it.