Switching to PC for 19
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Switching to PC for 19
Hi just looking for advice as i want to buy a pc that can play fs 19 but have no idea what to get. Is a sshd or hhd better fir gaming and what are some things to look for, for a good gamong experience. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
I recommend to wait until FS19 has been released and decide then/ask then again what kind of system you like
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
Ya I'm waiting till the system requirements come out before even looking at possible pc's
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
Probably around the time the game is about to launch
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
You def want to wait. My set up is nice for a lot of games but it struggles on some FS maps. If things stay the same I would look into Intel for CPU over R7 1700 ryzen as its what i have and its single core performance is lacking in FS.
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
I don't know if I'd want to wait at the moment.
Seems like a good time to invest in a PC.
The ar** has fallen out of mining and gpus are flooding the second hand market, coupled with ASICS becoming a thing and leaks about nVidia's new 11 series of gpus (computex announcement?) the price of gpus is basically msrp. So definitely a good time to buy one.
Ram prices are finally dropping from being artificially held high it seems.(judging from a recent news article involving possible lawsuits against 3 major manufacturers (again).)
Also involving ram heard a story yesterday about the possibility of DDR5 ram being available potentially next year (2019).
Ssd's seem to be becoming competitive also with WD getting in the mix with the like of Samsung.
But anyway. Just my opinion. Depends on your budget, confidence in building a PC or whether you'd prefer buying one off the shelf. Etc.
I know I'm going to be dropping cash on a FE 1180 when they release to upgrade from my current 1050ti. Adding another 16GB of ram and then adding a custom water loop!:coolnew:
Seems like a good time to invest in a PC.
The ar** has fallen out of mining and gpus are flooding the second hand market, coupled with ASICS becoming a thing and leaks about nVidia's new 11 series of gpus (computex announcement?) the price of gpus is basically msrp. So definitely a good time to buy one.
Ram prices are finally dropping from being artificially held high it seems.(judging from a recent news article involving possible lawsuits against 3 major manufacturers (again).)
Also involving ram heard a story yesterday about the possibility of DDR5 ram being available potentially next year (2019).
Ssd's seem to be becoming competitive also with WD getting in the mix with the like of Samsung.
But anyway. Just my opinion. Depends on your budget, confidence in building a PC or whether you'd prefer buying one off the shelf. Etc.
I know I'm going to be dropping cash on a FE 1180 when they release to upgrade from my current 1050ti. Adding another 16GB of ram and then adding a custom water loop!:coolnew:
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
It's sensible to wait too as the price of graphics cards is dropping rapidly at the moment (GPU coin mining doesn't seem to be worth it now thankfully) so it makes sense to wait if you can. Nvidia should be releasing new cards at some point this year too, which will also lower the price of their existing cards. All of this should help the prices of either your components or that of a full PC if you're buying one.
If you're building your own and on a budget then don't be afraid to look into the second hand market as there can often be a lot of value there. The only things I wouldn't consider 2nd hand are SSDs (they have limited writes) and Power Supply Units (don't skimp on the PSU - buy a good one and it will protect your other components).
With FS15 and FS17 a fast (in terms of MHz) quad-core CPU is more useful than a lower-clocked 6 or 8-core CPU. While the world is heading towards multi-threaded performance I highly doubt whether FS19 will optimised for it, but time will tell.
As for the question you pose, a solid-state hard drive is better than a hard drive for an operating system (you get a limited speed boost over a standard hard drive, but also lots of space). They're an ideal cost:speed choice for cheap laptops and low-end PCs. If you're building or configuring your own PC then often a dedicated SSD for the operating system (and games if it's large enough) is faster, with a separate HDD for extra storage (documents, videos, photos, etc). Most will find a single large SSD plenty and you get speed everywhere. Not necessarily cheap, but again the prices have started falling again, so worth keeping it in mind.
If you're building your own and on a budget then don't be afraid to look into the second hand market as there can often be a lot of value there. The only things I wouldn't consider 2nd hand are SSDs (they have limited writes) and Power Supply Units (don't skimp on the PSU - buy a good one and it will protect your other components).
With FS15 and FS17 a fast (in terms of MHz) quad-core CPU is more useful than a lower-clocked 6 or 8-core CPU. While the world is heading towards multi-threaded performance I highly doubt whether FS19 will optimised for it, but time will tell.
As for the question you pose, a solid-state hard drive is better than a hard drive for an operating system (you get a limited speed boost over a standard hard drive, but also lots of space). They're an ideal cost:speed choice for cheap laptops and low-end PCs. If you're building or configuring your own PC then often a dedicated SSD for the operating system (and games if it's large enough) is faster, with a separate HDD for extra storage (documents, videos, photos, etc). Most will find a single large SSD plenty and you get speed everywhere. Not necessarily cheap, but again the prices have started falling again, so worth keeping it in mind.
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
How much money should I spend on a pc?
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
If you build it yourself you can have a very capable rig for 800 or $900. The same pc would cost you 1500 to 1800 to have built.
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
Definitely wait at the moment. The current range of Nvidia cards are going to be renewed soon. That means you'll either get a current high end card cheaper or the very latest high end card (if thats what you're after) when that gets released. Sounds like these cards will be out by October so I'd wait.
As this_is_gav says an SSD drive is a must these days. Coming from console to PC at the start of this year I was blown away by how fast FS loads on PC with an SSD drive. Some of the smaller maps load in just a few seconds and the game itself boots up incredibly quickly too.
If you're used to the console version of the game you definitely won't regret getting it on PC. With all the extra mods and options it almost feels like a different game sometimes. One thing I would say though is that I think the gap between the console and PC versions of the game will narrow considerably with FS-19 but I guess you will always have those extra unlicensed mods on PC.
As this_is_gav says an SSD drive is a must these days. Coming from console to PC at the start of this year I was blown away by how fast FS loads on PC with an SSD drive. Some of the smaller maps load in just a few seconds and the game itself boots up incredibly quickly too.
If you're used to the console version of the game you definitely won't regret getting it on PC. With all the extra mods and options it almost feels like a different game sometimes. One thing I would say though is that I think the gap between the console and PC versions of the game will narrow considerably with FS-19 but I guess you will always have those extra unlicensed mods on PC.
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See thats already too much, $700 in Canadian dollars is my price range, I just want to play fs on medium 60 fpsNowHeresRoy wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:29 pmIf you build it yourself you can have a very capable rig for 800 or $900. The same pc would cost you 1500 to 1800 to have built.
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This would be a great buy. This is the PC that i have, but with the i57400, which i will be upgrading to the i7700 on the next few months.redglasses wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pmSee thats already too much, $700 in Canadian dollars is my price range, I just want to play fs on medium 60 fpsNowHeresRoy wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:29 pmIf you build it yourself you can have a very capable rig for 800 or $900. The same pc would cost you 1500 to 1800 to have built.
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Re: Switching to PC for 19
The answer to your specific question is very easy and doesn’t require waiting. SSDs will be “better” for games for the same reason they are better for other applications: their access times are almost instantaneous. This means faster load times and less potential for stuttering on games that, say load scenery and such in the background. However, the cost per megabyte is much higher (still) than conventional hard disks and the capacities are much lower.
So, if budget considerations are important, I would focus on graphics card, RAM, and CPU, in that order, before I worried about an SSD. In fact, RAM is so comparatively cheap, it is possible to overcome some of the load time sacrifice of sticking with a conventional hard drive: if you have enough RAM, the whole game (or a significant portion of it) may be able to stay resident in memory, avoiding swapping to disk and subsequent reads from the drive. That said, though, definitely opt for a 7200 RPM drive (or faster) for gaming if you go conventional; the price premium is small and well worth it.
Or, if you have room in the budget, get a smallish SSD and a good size 7200 RPM drive, then install your OS and drivers on the SSD while saving the HD for data and game installs. This will provide great boot times and overall responsiveness, while giving you lots of space, reasonable load times, and more modest cost.
As for the other hardware choices, waiting may be best, particularly since graphics card prices may be normalizing finally. But, if you want to go ahead, I’d shoot for a GTX1060 or better (with as much video RAM as possible) (or AMD equivalent), a current gen Core i5 or better (or AMD equivalent), at LEAST 8GB of good (and reasonably fast) RAM, and a quality motherboard with a high-end, gaming-appropriate chipset. Oh, and get a quality case, and an appropriately-sized QUALITY power supply; your life will be better in the long run. (If you have the budget, liquid cooling is great for a quiet rig, too.)
My bet is that shooting for those as a minimum should allow you to comfortably play FS19 at 1920x1080, with mid to mid-high quality (maybe better). In my mind, anything beyond that is probably just buying you more eye candy and/or future proofing.
EDIT: Beware used kit, particularly graphics cards. These days there is a very real chance you are buy a cryptocurrency mining cast-off that has ben run at full load, under high temps, for a couple years straight and, so, may be on its last leg.
So, if budget considerations are important, I would focus on graphics card, RAM, and CPU, in that order, before I worried about an SSD. In fact, RAM is so comparatively cheap, it is possible to overcome some of the load time sacrifice of sticking with a conventional hard drive: if you have enough RAM, the whole game (or a significant portion of it) may be able to stay resident in memory, avoiding swapping to disk and subsequent reads from the drive. That said, though, definitely opt for a 7200 RPM drive (or faster) for gaming if you go conventional; the price premium is small and well worth it.
Or, if you have room in the budget, get a smallish SSD and a good size 7200 RPM drive, then install your OS and drivers on the SSD while saving the HD for data and game installs. This will provide great boot times and overall responsiveness, while giving you lots of space, reasonable load times, and more modest cost.
As for the other hardware choices, waiting may be best, particularly since graphics card prices may be normalizing finally. But, if you want to go ahead, I’d shoot for a GTX1060 or better (with as much video RAM as possible) (or AMD equivalent), a current gen Core i5 or better (or AMD equivalent), at LEAST 8GB of good (and reasonably fast) RAM, and a quality motherboard with a high-end, gaming-appropriate chipset. Oh, and get a quality case, and an appropriately-sized QUALITY power supply; your life will be better in the long run. (If you have the budget, liquid cooling is great for a quiet rig, too.)
My bet is that shooting for those as a minimum should allow you to comfortably play FS19 at 1920x1080, with mid to mid-high quality (maybe better). In my mind, anything beyond that is probably just buying you more eye candy and/or future proofing.
EDIT: Beware used kit, particularly graphics cards. These days there is a very real chance you are buy a cryptocurrency mining cast-off that has ben run at full load, under high temps, for a couple years straight and, so, may be on its last leg.