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Now I'm confused as to penalties vs bonus lol. I'd be happy if no penalty for plowing. Guess next question will be if plowing a needs plowed fields helps your yield like base game....or does nothing at allRasping rabbit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:38 pm As far as I can make out there is no penalty in environment score for plowing, there just isn’t a bonus. I am working on the assumption that the yield bonus/penalty in the base game carries over or there would be no need for ‘periodic plowing’. I am sure on of the YouTubers or the number crunchers on here will look into it.
Hopefully there’s an update to it in the future with it coming out so early in the games life cycle. It would sure be nice for there to be some consideration to things like compaction and residue management.lawm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:31 pm
I know i saw Welker or someone disc up some ground because of the hardness. It just bugs me that they tied it to your sell price as a bonus. I will have to figure a way to play around that aspect starting out. I love the numbers/ spreadsheet aspects added and then soil types and yield numbers.
As to what you said about wasting money, that's what I always assumed from hearing farmers is that they dont farm one way or another unless it makes their life easier or it's more profitable. They should have almost implemented it so that you sometimes had to plow certain types of ground or added crop rotation so that you have to plow after corn but then the numbers even out as you start no till wheat etc after corn. Or plow and plant vs chopping corn stalks and direct drill no till. Like you said, too many parameters. Maybe someday
Besides "whole foods" or a farmers market....is that even a thing? Being paid more for corn or wheat on the market based on how you produced it?DMZ Commander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:52 am So my understanding as far as tillage goes....it doesn't effect your yield, it only effects your environment score. Which the higher your environmental score the bigger cash bonus you'll get when you sell your stuff
Kind of, in the UK anyway. Unless I understand it totally wrong, the Red Tractor brand, which is a kind of ‘mark of quality’ that guarantees that any products coming from farms whether grains or animals have been produced or reared following certain guidelines.lawm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:31 amBesides "whole foods" or a farmers market....is that even a thing? Being paid more for corn or wheat on the market based on how you produced it?DMZ Commander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:52 am So my understanding as far as tillage goes....it doesn't effect your yield, it only effects your environment score. Which the higher your environmental score the bigger cash bonus you'll get when you sell your stuff
13% more but if you have less weeds what's that cost you? Oh well, at least plowing has separate aspects and I can weight my options.ScotsDude73 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:45 pm From what I see plowing for me is only necessary when periodic plowing is enable I prefer to get a no tillage or direct seeding bonus. One benefit to plowing is no weeds after you seed. So in some cases it is still a good thing. You just dont get the field/environmental score. Depends if you obsesse over your environmental score which increases your crop price by up to 13%!!
That looks like fun trying to comply with lolRasping rabbit wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:40 am
Kind of, in the UK anyway. Unless I understand it totally wrong, the Red Tractor brand, which is a kind of ‘mark of quality’ that guarantees that any products coming from farms whether grains or animals have been produced or reared following certain guidelines.
As far as I can tell this covers a lot more than just what is covered in the ‘environmental score’ but it does appear to be a part of it. I remember an episode of Clarksons Farm where he was trying to get the certification so he could get the best prices.
https://redtractor.org.uk/our-standards/combi-crops/
Technically grain is usually priced on its quality. Husband of a friend of my brothers works in such a lab in the Netherlands where they test grain and is priced according to the quality of the crop.lawm wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:31 amBesides "whole foods" or a farmers market....is that even a thing? Being paid more for corn or wheat on the market based on how you produced it?DMZ Commander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:52 am So my understanding as far as tillage goes....it doesn't effect your yield, it only effects your environment score. Which the higher your environmental score the bigger cash bonus you'll get when you sell your stuff
they want ya to use the new JD sprayer that you can add the option to spot spray on as from what i got to much herbicide is bad now so wish they added the option to add it on all sprayers.ScotsDude73 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:00 pm Direct drilling after mulching and liming. Seed the field with direct drill planter or seeder that takes fertilizer or spread slurry, manure or digestate before you you seed the field. Roll the field after seeding. Skip the night you will get your first growth spurt and medium size weeds growing. I tried herbicide and got a yield penalty. Second time I got weeds I used the hoe under weeders second from the left and got no yield penalty.
I tried that and got a yield penalty. I dont like using herbicide. Wonder if preemptive spraying will work in Precision Farming. Need to test it out.ace54858 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:12 amthey want ya to use the new JD sprayer that you can add the option to spot spray on as from what i got to much herbicide is bad now so wish they added the option to add it on all sprayers.ScotsDude73 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:00 pm Direct drilling after mulching and liming. Seed the field with direct drill planter or seeder that takes fertilizer or spread slurry, manure or digestate before you you seed the field. Roll the field after seeding. Skip the night you will get your first growth spurt and medium size weeds growing. I tried herbicide and got a yield penalty. Second time I got weeds I used the hoe under weeders second from the left and got no yield penalty.
Plowing is not a penalty in Precision Farming as you do not lose any points however its more beneficial to directly seed your field with a drill than plow or cultivate as you get points towards increasing your field/environmental score which increases the value of crop up to 13% the closer you get to 100 points. Key things are mulching, correct amount of lime, correct amount of nitrogen depending on the crop sown, no till seeding, rolling after seeding and weed control. I use the hoe in game under weeders second from the left on the first spurt of growth. Yield varies depend on soil type following those steps. Silty clay you can achieve 125% yield if done correctly. There is a diagram in the blog under Environmental Score. Follow steps 1-4. Step 5 I substituted the spot spraying for a hoe as the spot spraying gave me a yield penalty. No till seeding produces medium size weeds which the hoe can pull out as well as smaller weeds.lawm wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:45 pmNow I'm confused as to penalties vs bonus lol. I'd be happy if no penalty for plowing. Guess next question will be if plowing a needs plowed fields helps your yield like base game....or does nothing at allRasping rabbit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:38 pm As far as I can make out there is no penalty in environment score for plowing, there just isn’t a bonus. I am working on the assumption that the yield bonus/penalty in the base game carries over or there would be no need for ‘periodic plowing’. I am sure on of the YouTubers or the number crunchers on here will look into it.