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Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:58 am
by RODHA
There was a nitrogen chart for crops on precision farming in FS19. If I’m not mistaken it was prepped by Gb modding. I always used it back then and it kinda worked for release version of the precision farming in FS22.

However, I think Giants have changed the nitrogen values with the 1.5 update.

Does anybody have the latest version of that chart? Because I’m getting tired of over fertilizing my fileds.

Any kind of help would really be much appreciated :hi:

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 12:42 pm
by Rasping rabbit
How are you over fertilising your fields? It’s applied automatically at the correct amount for crop/soil type.

I haven’t seen the chat you refer to though I am afraid.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 1:08 pm
by RODHA
Chemical fertilizer application rate is automatic based on the crop and the soil type.
Manure/slurry application rate is automatic based only on the soil type.
Hence, when you apply slurry or manure right after the harvest you apply it with an automatic rate based on the soil type. After that you put the crop. But the crop might require less nitrogen on that specific soil type then you put into the soil with manure or slurry. That’s how you can over fertilize if you don’t know the specific amounts for each crop on each soil type.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 2:16 pm
by Rasping rabbit
RODHA wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 1:08 pm Chemical fertilizer application rate is automatic based on the crop and the soil type.
Manure/slurry application rate is automatic based only on the soil type.
Hence, when you apply slurry or manure right after the harvest you apply it with an automatic rate based on the soil type. After that you put the crop. But the crop might require less nitrogen on that specific soil type then you put into the soil with manure or slurry. That’s how you can over fertilize if you don’t know the specific amounts for each crop on each soil type.
Fair point, I have only really noticed that with soybeans so I just don’t manure fields I am going to use with that crop. I generally only use crops you can plant with seeders though so can’t comment really on other types.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 9:32 am
by RODHA
Normally, not using manure or slurry would also be my choise as a solution but with the PF if you don't use them, your enviromental score drops down. Kind of one affecting the other. I hope there is an updated chart around.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 9:53 am
by raran
Rasping rabbit wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 2:16 pm
RODHA wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 1:08 pm Chemical fertilizer application rate is automatic based on the crop and the soil type.
Manure/slurry application rate is automatic based only on the soil type.
Hence, when you apply slurry or manure right after the harvest you apply it with an automatic rate based on the soil type. After that you put the crop. But the crop might require less nitrogen on that specific soil type then you put into the soil with manure or slurry. That’s how you can over fertilize if you don’t know the specific amounts for each crop on each soil type.
Fair point, I have only really noticed that with soybeans so I just don’t manure fields I am going to use with that crop. I generally only use crops you can plant with seeders though so can’t comment really on other types.
Soybeans are neutral to nitrogen in precision farming so that is why you notice a difference.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 10:00 am
by raran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3l4DYjtoE

This kind of explains the basics with actual values.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 10:21 am
by Eische
Hi all.
I created this chart for the default values of PF for the current version.
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Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 10:35 am
by RODHA
Eische wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 10:21 am Hi all.
I created this chart for the default values of PF for the current version.
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This is brilliant mate. Thank you very much :hi:

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 5:58 am
by ScotsDude73
Whats Meadow???

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:42 am
by norfolk farmer
ScotsDude73 wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 5:58 am Whats Meadow???
I believe it is the grass with the decorative flowers in it not the grass you can plant. Once cut it accepts fert on it now which I don't believe it did in previous games.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 8:51 am
by RODHA
Meadow and seeded grass are different. If I'm not mistaken meadow is the grassland put in by the map maker. Those lands couldn't be fertilized or limed in FS19 but they can be in FS22. On the other hand seeded grass is what it says on the tin. If you seed an arable field with grass you get that and it is the most yielding grass in the game depending on how well you worked the field.

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:21 am
by raran
RODHA wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:51 am Meadow and seeded grass are different. If I'm not mistaken meadow is the grassland put in by the map maker. Those lands couldn't be fertilized or limed in FS19 but they can be in FS22. On the other hand seeded grass is what it says on the tin. If you seed an arable field with grass you get that and it is the most yielding grass in the game depending on how well you worked the field.
And to add to that, it doesn't make a difference if you cut grass in the first or second stage. The yearly yield for both is pretty much the same. The most efficient way is to wait for the second cut to spare on fuel and machinewear and workercosts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqOuM793e98&t=246s

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 9:35 am
by RODHA
raran wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 9:21 am
RODHA wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:51 am Meadow and seeded grass are different. If I'm not mistaken meadow is the grassland put in by the map maker. Those lands couldn't be fertilized or limed in FS19 but they can be in FS22. On the other hand seeded grass is what it says on the tin. If you seed an arable field with grass you get that and it is the most yielding grass in the game depending on how well you worked the field.
And to add to that, it doesn't make a difference if you cut grass in the first or second stage. The yearly yield for both is pretty much the same. The most efficient way is to wait for the second cut to spare on fuel and machinewear and workercosts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqOuM793e98&t=246s
Aaaa... I knew that the second "ready to harvest" stage yields more than the first stage but I hadn't thought that the total yield would identical or similar in a whole year. Thanks for the tip mate :hi:

Re: Precision farming nitrogen chart for crops

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 5:55 pm
by ScotsDude73
Ok thanks