OmaTana farm production pack new productions do not appear or spawn

[Amhoag]

On this mod, the new products French fries, noodles, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal, and popcorn show you on the chains menu but not on the building storage and when activated does not turn on or create any pallets. It will say running but nothing happens.

[Opteo]

Tried running time forward?

[OmaTana]

On this mod, the new products French fries, noodles, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal, and popcorn show you on the chains menu but not on the building storage and when activated does not turn on or create any pallets. It will say running but nothing happens.

Sorry, I just saw this thread.

Do you use other mods with additional products beside the farm production?

And how long did you wait for something to happen?

[Opteo]

I’m having this too omatana. It’s missing icons and recipes for spaghetti, tomato sauce, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal and popcorn. Those listed also do not show up in the outgoing products list. French fries and premium potatoes, as well as the rest are showing fine for me.I’m using the farm production barn, medium, the one with red top and grey block bottom. I’m on Xbox series x, if that matters. I’ll do some testing on it in a bit and get back to you with my findings.

[OmaTana]

I’m having this too omatana. It’s missing icons and recipes for spaghetti, tomato sauce, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal and popcorn. Those listed also do not show up in the outgoing products list. French fries and premium potatoes, as well as the rest are showing fine for me.I’m using the farm production barn, medium, the one with red top and grey block bottom. I’m on Xbox series x, if that matters. I’ll do some testing on it in a bit and get back to you with my findings.

Ok, it would be important to know, whether you use other mods with custom products at the same time.

As the products of my Farm Production are visible and working for thousands of players, I think it could be a conflict with other mods, that are not combined so often with my Farm Production, because my mod is already out for 1.5 years, and I hadn't had reports of such a problem yet.

[Opteo]

I agree, I’m going to test it for you right now

[Opteo]

The sweet bakery version 1.0.0.0 by ChenBen nukes your popcorn. The tree nursery version 1.0.0.0 by VX mapping nukes both your popcorn and oat meal. Wholesale version 1.0.0.6 by ZoddelZockt nukes your spaghetti, tomatoes sauce, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal and popcorn all.

[OmaTana]

The sweet bakery version 1.0.0.0 by ChenBen nukes your popcorn. The tree nursery version 1.0.0.0 by VX mapping nukes both your popcorn and oat meal. Wholesale version 1.0.0.6 by ZoddelZockt nukes your spaghetti, tomatoes sauce, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal and popcorn all.

Yes, that could be the case.
Sadly I don't know a solution for this.
There is nothing, I or the other modders could do against this.
I hope, we get more products in the next FarmSim, that we don't need to make so many custom products, that get in conflict with each other.

[Opteo]

Looks like there would be some kind of unique product ids that’s hashed with the mod name or something. Either way, I’m disabling those others and keeping yours

[Opteo]

Downloaded zoddelzockt’s new sugar production mod today and it nuked everything again.
Edit: I see, it requires Wholesale mod, so that’s what nuked it again.

[Chenbenj]

The sweet bakery version 1.0.0.0 by ChenBen nukes your popcorn. The tree nursery version 1.0.0.0 by VX mapping nukes both your popcorn and oat meal. Wholesale version 1.0.0.6 by ZoddelZockt nukes your spaghetti, tomatoes sauce, mixed salad, oat drink, oat meal and popcorn all.

Yes, that could be the case.
Sadly I don't know a solution for this.
There is nothing, I or the other modders could do against this.
I hope, we get more products in the next FarmSim, that we don't need to make so many custom products, that get in conflict with each other.

Hello,

I'm the author of "The Sweet Bakery" and I've just tested it with Omatana's Farm production pack without the slightest difficulty.

Everything works on both his mod and mine.

The log is totally clean without a single error or warning

However, I've had to deal with an incident with a player in the last few days for whom my mod wasn't working.
It turns out that he had an astronomical number of mods of all kinds, including this one in his log:

	2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SHOES' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'POLYESTER' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BELTS' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'WASTEPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMBAGGED' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'WASTEPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMBAGGED' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'WASTEPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMBAGGED' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BIGBAGS' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'WASTEPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PREMIUMBAGGED' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BIGBAGS' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'BULK'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'TRAINWAGON'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'FARMSILO'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'SEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'BAGGEDSEEDPOTATO' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'Cereal_Mixes' in fillTypeCategory 'LIQUID'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Error: FillTypeManager.addFillType too many fill types. Only 255 fill types are supported 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'CROISSANT' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PAINAURAISIN' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'! 2023-07-31 22:09 Warning: Unknown FillType 'PAINAUCHOCOLAT' in fillTypeCategory 'PRODUCT'!

The message is pretty clear, there can't be more than 255 filltypes (= products) in a game.
I don't know how the game selects which filltypes to use, but there's a good chance that the problems here are similar.

The mods are tested by the Giants teams and work for thousands (or even hundreds of thousands) of players without any problems...

Feel free to check your logs and maybe clean up your mods a bit
I hope I've been able to help move the problem forwar

[Opteo]

Yeah, that would explain it. It is odd that all these mods, plus I can add several more mods with new fill types, which you’d think would go over the limit, they work fine together. I guess maybe it’s trying to load that one omatana mod last, after all the others for some reason. Just an odd coincidence. I think I’ll go count my filltypes (on console).

[Opteo]

Yeah, only 191 products. Like I said, I can add other product mods on top of that and they work fine, except this one omatana.

[OmaTana]

Yeah, only 191 products. Like I said, I can add other product mods on top of that and they work fine, except this one omatana.

Ok, how did you count the fillTypes?
There are some funny fillTypes, that also count for this list, like all types of horses, chickens, cows and such, also weed, tarp and more.
So fillTypes are not only the products.

191 products are really, really a lot. I guess, the developers never thought on using so many products and therefore never tested whether everything would run perfect, even when some fillTypes are defined several times.

Always when a fillType is defined more than once, the game has to decide how to handle this problem, because it is a problem, when there are several definitions for the same fillType. Which is the ruling definition for this fillType? Naturally the fillTypes with the same name are defined differently when defined by different modders, such as HUD-icon, pallet design and more. This has to be like that, because using the same HUD-icon, pallet design from another modder would be considered as mod robbing. Therefore every modder has to define a fillType on his/her own. And therefore mod conflicts with fillType definitions are necessarily pre-programmed. And we modders can't do anything about it.

Luckily multiple definitions of the same fillType seem still to work, when using only a normal amount of fillTypes in total for a savegame.

That there are some problems, when using very many fillTypes seem to me rather normal, considering how software usually works.

Maybe this could work in FS37, in the far future, when it will be considered normal to play with huge amounts of fillTypes, the hardware is much stronger and the game engine is developed and tested much further.

I guess, that the non working products are with my production mod has to do with the fact, that my mod is loaded very late due to its file name which is FS22_yardProductionPack. The word "yard" is rather at the end of the alphabet, and the mods are loaded alphabetically.
As a pc player you could change the name to something further in the beginning of the alphabet, but sadly that is not possible on XBox.

[Opteo]

I bet that’s it, the ‘y’ is at the end of the alphabet. I hope they didn’t use a real byte type though (0-255), cause that would be very inefficient in a 64 bit software.Thanks for the technical details!