Please remove "Real World" ads from game -> Giants Devs

[MagicBoy]

I dont recall we got a discount for the game to offset this "feature".

You want an explicit discount stated upon purchase to offset a couple of dynamic billboards in the base game maps, as it greatly offends you?

What next, an itemised bill as to the commercial arrangement between Giants and John Deere, Case and AGCO?

You need to lighten up.

Next you'll be telling me you invoice the local council/county/whatever for viewing adverts by the side of the road as you drive to the grocery store.

You confuse parts you buy and dont buy.

Nope. I bought Farming Simulator 22, and that's what I received.

Also the ads in game have nothing to do with farming.

Not noticed anything immersion breaking for a pretend farming sandbox. Unless you're getting your underpants in a knot over a pretend beer brand. Does the Simpsons having Duff Beer also antagonise you?

Plus they are immersion breaking when presented in another language.

Nope. I'm playing a foreign map. I wouldn't expect everything in English.

The billboards also support video, I guess you are looking forward to that.

Meh, not really bothered in the slightest.

I await your next frothing at the mouth rant about them using your bandwidth without your permission and the itemised bill you sent Giants.

[ASOLANDRI]

it does not keep updating the billboards throughout the session.

Having these not changing constantly is more realistic-ish because I think it takes a week or a month before changing the billboard.

Unfortunately around here, a decent number of them over the last 5+ years have been converted to electronic billboards, so they rotate thru the ads every 10 seconds or so. yay.

Here in Central Texas around here are mostly Static Billboards.

[AgroDude]

I'm totally zoned out of even seeing adverts. I didn't even notice the billboard sat there.

My philosophy: if you interrupt what I'm doing, you're permanently entering my DO NOT BUY list (that includes all video ads on YT). I hit mute and look away. I see not even 1 second.

I thought they where fake ad boards. something that is integrated in the game already. But it seems to be more worse then that.

Yes - this specific billboard (by the gas station) is a live ad board showing real adverts. It appears the adverts are loaded at game load. I have confirmed blocking the URL on page 1 of this thread blocks them. I now see the fictional generic advert on that board.

[Luftkopf]

So where actually are these billboards? Because I’ve only actually ever seen the fake ads, never real brands.

[Xtrememaster]

On the Elm creek map. You have just look around and you will see them.. Also on some factory buildings.

[Luftkopf]

On the Elm creek map. You have just look around and you will see them.. Also on some factory buildings.

Ah, thanks. That’s why don’t see them. I don’t play on Elm Creek much, I spend the majority of my time on Haut-Beyleron. I’ll have to go check it out.

[FLusty94]

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[Phantoms]

I'm totally zoned out of even seeing adverts. I didn't even notice the billboard sat there.

My philosophy: if you interrupt what I'm doing, you're permanently entering my DO NOT BUY list (that includes all video ads on YT). I hit mute and look away. I see not even 1 second.

Funny thing about youtube. They didn't have ads for many of it's beginning years. Then when they started having ads, they had one at the beginning that you could skip. It continually got more and more and now you can't skip them, they have ads pop up throughout the video, etc., etc. You can now pay them so that ads are limited. Complain about ads on youtube and you get all kinds of people defending them. Youtube needs to make money, etc. Either they forget how youtube was or they weren't there during it's first several years.

Now you see people defending Giants for serving ads on billboards in FS. "It makes it more realistic", "what do you think all the branded vehicles are", "other games are doing it", etc. I call BS on that. It's a money grab plain and simple. And once it starts it will only get more and more.

[Questionnaire]

I'm totally zoned out of even seeing adverts. I didn't even notice the billboard sat there.

My philosophy: if you interrupt what I'm doing, you're permanently entering my DO NOT BUY list (that includes all video ads on YT). I hit mute and look away. I see not even 1 second.

Funny thing about youtube. They didn't have ads for many of it's beginning years. Then when they started having ads, they had one at the beginning that you could skip. It continually got more and more and now you can't skip them, they have ads pop up throughout the video, etc., etc. You can now pay them so that ads are limited. Complain about ads on youtube and you get all kinds of people defending them. Youtube needs to make money, etc. Either they forget how youtube was or they weren't there during it's first several years.

Now you see people defending Giants for serving ads on billboards in FS. "It makes it more realistic", "what do you think all the branded vehicles are", "other games are doing it", etc. I call BS on that. It's a money grab plain and simple. And once it starts it will only get more and more.

Ads on Youtube interrupt your content, billboards in games that happen to be real brands don't. Also, they aren't demanding more of your money for this, they get no money from you going and visiting those sites, they just put the images on the billboards.They are just different images on the billboards, it does not matter.

[alha alha]

I cut the cord (cable TV) about 7-8 years ago, and never looked back. Also haven't fallen into what I call the cable replacement syndrome (Disney +, Hulu, Netflix, Apple TV, etc.) either, because after you subscribe to a number of those, you're pretty much back up to somewhere around what you used to pay for cable. For the most part I've just gone with YouTube for my entertainment, and watch it almost exclusively on a computer and not my phone. The ads on it don't bother me at all, as I'm running Adblock plus, so other than in content product placements, I haven't seen an ad on YouTube in years.

[Shintai]

I'm totally zoned out of even seeing adverts. I didn't even notice the billboard sat there.

My philosophy: if you interrupt what I'm doing, you're permanently entering my DO NOT BUY list (that includes all video ads on YT). I hit mute and look away. I see not even 1 second.

Funny thing about youtube. They didn't have ads for many of it's beginning years. Then when they started having ads, they had one at the beginning that you could skip. It continually got more and more and now you can't skip them, they have ads pop up throughout the video, etc., etc. You can now pay them so that ads are limited. Complain about ads on youtube and you get all kinds of people defending them. Youtube needs to make money, etc. Either they forget how youtube was or they weren't there during it's first several years.

Now you see people defending Giants for serving ads on billboards in FS. "It makes it more realistic", "what do you think all the branded vehicles are", "other games are doing it", etc. I call BS on that. It's a money grab plain and simple. And once it starts it will only get more and more.

Exactly. This is why people white knighting this is either blind to the reasons and further development or simply do not know any better. We already know the billboards support video for example. Its a slippery slope only heading downwards.

[norfolk farmer]

Note that the ad system in FS22 is not collecting any private data at all (unlike other ad systems from Facebook, Google, etc.). So you're not actually 'selling' any of your private data.

I have no problem personally with the ads on the basegame maps, but my question would be are modders going to be required to have the billboards on mod maps to qualify for the modhub ? As depending on the map it could look badly out of place.

This is my only concern regarding them.

[theSeb]

A billboard mod for income doesn't sound half bad. Way more realistic than a Gov subsidy, even if it doesn't pay very much.

Are you suggesting that government subsidies for farmers aren't realistic?

[theSeb]

Would you like the car dealer to paint an ad on the side of your car before delivering it to you? How about your home seller sticking a billboard on your lawn.

They already do in most parts of the world. You end up with a sticker on the back window proudly proclaiming where you bought the car from and sometimes on the number plate holder too. I have always removed the stickers, since I didn't recall a sponsorship deal discussion with the sales person.

[theSeb]

The problem for me is not about "it's real products that they advertise". The problem is about security.
Basically when you play the game "billboard picture code(BPC)" is downloaded from Giants server and run. First it might be a static picture shown on billboard, then a GIF, then a video with sound or in case Giants is really stripped - a crypto-mining software (don't worry they won't use you GPU - you would notice framedrops, they'll use CPU as the game itself loads maybe 2-3 cores only and you probably have spare resources there). Burried in the TC they actually might have something about it. Together with "in case our servers are hacked and the BPC is replaced with some cryptolocker software - you're on your own".
So still not a problem that they didn't tell you about this functionality?

No, that's not how any of this works.

Many people have always wanted real adverts in their games (for immersion). I recall many mod maps with actual dealer names and so forth based on the area they were representing. I guess this was Giants response and also an easy way to make some extra money with real adverts. The fact that the adverts don't fit the locale of the map and are based on your locale does *censored* and ruin the immersion, but let's not get onto the slippery slope ridiculous fallacy that I just quoted, because that does not help anyone. Nobody wanted to just drive around in Lizards, so this was the next logical step. These adverts aren't connected to the typical ad networks, so your concern about crypto mining ads is beyond banal.